This is a discussion on Thoughts about Aurora... within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I also noticed a lot of people thinking they could have stopped the guy, when in reality it's just not going to happen. The BG ...
I also noticed a lot of people thinking they could have stopped the guy, when in reality it's just not going to happen. The BG had WAY too many advantages, body armor, ar-15, shotgun, pistols, tear gas, not to mention the civilians that would be in your way, and you would barely have any night vision since you were just staring at a bright movie theater screen, there's too many to list.
I thought the Hollywood bank robbery already taught us all a lesson about what it would actually take to stop somebody like him.
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The only way someone could have stopped him without adding to the overall danger in there would have been to
somehow get in back or to the side--his vision blocked by the mask-- and shove a knife in him. I assume however
that he kept his back to a wall so that couldn't happen. Maybe from the side.
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I think some are giving this murderer too much credit. He wasn't some trained operator with combat experience. He was an "egg head" college student who had bought for himself some neat toys, and then decided to use them to kill people.
As far as someone with a CCW being able to choose whether or not they enter a business that prohibits firearms, a lot of people do not have that option. They may work in that building, or, like Chicago or New York City, they can't even carry a gun.
Guns aside, what if five guys had simply rushed the shooter once the firing began? Something to think about along with everything else.
Whitman was firing essentially from an elevated and ensconced position as a sniper. A strategic move on his part designed to keep those who would intervene at bay. His situation was uniquely unique compared to every other mass shooting event in the last 40 years where the shooters walk among the group of victims as they engage. So, I didn't include his sniper incident in my comparison. I consider snipers to be in a different category.
But yes, you are correct in that Mr. Whitman was a mass murder spree killer. You win a free consolation cookie for your effort Mike. Good post.
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With that said, and with the fact that he (the shooter) surrendered without a fight when he found himself confronted with his own possible death. I do believe, that had there been a armed response to his actions, there would be a lot less fatalities.
A few rounds returned back to him would have reveiled he didn't have true body armor on him, and that may have been just enough to cause a different outcome. Then again, given that type of situation, who knows what the outcome would have been.
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He was there. It was a gun free zone. Does it matter whether he chose it because it was a gun free zone?Do we know for a fact that the shooter chose this location because it was a gun free zone?
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Sure, 12 people dead and 50+ wounded is terrible, but if somebody really knew what they were doing and went about it in an organized manner, i.e. not a psycho, more of a terrorist type, they could do much more damage than that.
So I guess my point is - it would definitely be doable to take this guy (or any mass murderer) out, but the Aurora shooter would have been tricky.
No one ever said it would be an easy task to take out this gunman, but if you are just going to sit by and stick your head in sand, then leave your gun at home. You are no benefit to society. As for those that say it will never happen to me, or in my area. Well it just happened and might happen again. This time it could be coming to a theater near you....
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