Gun in Hand Upon Police Arrival

Gun in Hand Upon Police Arrival

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    Gun in Hand Upon Police Arrival

    To have a firearm in your hand when the police arrive? We have had some threads lately which reinforce the fact that it is not. When something bad happens, they will be coming.
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    Negative... NO. Holster the rosco and keep the hands clear... Simple as dat.
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    It depends. I may be holding the BG at gunpoint, or there may have been other BGs involved. But I would put it away when the police arrive, and hopefully have told 911 I was armed.
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    I think that in most situations this would be the wisest course. However, if I've got a BG at gunpoint, I'm not putting it away until LEO is onsite to take over the situation.
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    If possible I would not have a gun in my hand when the poliec arrive. The situation will dictate that, but if I can choose I would rather not be holding a gun when they get there.
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    Does Anyone Believe It Is A Good Idea ... To have a firearm in your hand when the police arrive?
    Nope. It's about as good a way as I can think of to masquerade as an armed criminal, when LE's arriving to seek out the armed criminal they were called to apprehend. Bad juju, no matter how you slice it.
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    Does Anyone Believe It Is A Good Idea ... To have a firearm in your hand when the police arrive?
    No but this assumes that I know in advance that they are coming. Having a weapon in my hand might be unavoidable if they show up unexpected.

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    Good chance if you do they will take it and good luck getting it back.
    Here even if you done nothing wrong once in a LEO hands you may have to go to court to getting returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    It depends. I may be holding the BG at gunpoint, or there may have been other BGs involved. But I would put it away when the police arrive, and hopefully have told 911 I was armed.
    This, just keep them informed when you call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Shot View Post
    This thread is a joke.
    Only to those failing to appreciate just how tenuous a situation can be, with armed LE arriving, if appearing to do a good impersonation of a BG at the time.

    Part of the responsibility of being a citizen in our own community AND being an armed citizen is to realize the simple calculus of what goes on in a person's head when entering such a situation. It applies to a citizen coming upon someone else who's armed, and it applies to LE when coming upon a situation where someone else is armed ... particularly if called specifically to seek/find the criminal in the area.

    Any number of basic, common-sense steps can be done to get seen as the GG in such a situation, such as remaining on the phone with dispatch until LE has made positive contact, ensuring dispatch has a clear description of the players in the situation, ensuring one's firearm/hands are in appropriate position so as to avoid being mistaken for a BG ... and, if the situation requires one to remain armed until LE arrive, ensuring that inbound LE aren't going to be surprised be any "fast" moves that'll prompt them to open fire on a person mistakenly.
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    I'll be dual wielding my gats and doing tactical barrel rolls. I'll have my CC badge, sash, t-shirt, and molle vest on so the police will recognize me as one of the good guys, after all the 27 bad guys will be horizontal. It'll take some time to convince them that I am not SWAT. After marveling at my skillz, setting appointments for their training, and advising them of the number of body bags they're going to need I may holster at least one of my pistols if I feel they have the sitch under contol.
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    Bad Idea unless it can't be avoided. I've instructed friends and family to let dispatch and 911 know I am armed and give my exact description as well as circumstances. like.... he's holding the criminal at gunpoint E.T.C.
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    One of the tips Massad Ayoob suggests is, if possible, to have someone be "out front" to meet/greet arriving LE, so that nobody gets mistaken for the wrong person ... particularly if the GG is going to have a firearm out and trained on someone at the time of arrival.
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    There are times that it can't be avoided. In those times I can only hope that the officer is not trigger happy.

    EDIT: Such as when a neighbor might call to report a prowler or when police just happen to notice a strange light in your back yard.

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    If possible then no, I don't think it's a good idea. If you're holding the BG at gunpoint there may not be a choice but I'd be sure to let dispatch know on the phone who is who and AS SOON as they arrive on scene and say to put the weapon down you bet your butt I'm putting it down. If the BG jumps up and runs at that point they can chase him! Although if I truly need my firearm I'm not going to ask someone to surrender. If they do in that split second, great, but otherwise if I know they are on the ground and no longer a threat I'm going to place my weapon on the ground or in the holster and have hands clear when LEO's arrive.

    The one time I had to call 911 was for a medical emergency for my son, not a self defense situation, but throughout the call it was "ma'am, do this, ma'am, how is he now? ma'am, the officers are close. ma'am, they've arrived." I'd like to belive that I'd have that heads up they're coming on scene - if at all possible I'm not putting down my cell with the operator!!!
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