Just received a heads up from a LEO friend

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    Thanks for the info. I will be informing my family and friends about this for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    Dude, I do it all the time. I usually get the car moving pretty good before I hop out, but I've yet to have anyone actually try to take the car after I hop out.
    Sure. Which only shows there aren't that many instances of thefts while running.

    But the LEO's "alert" (from the OP) suggests it's becoming a more-common tactic.
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    Just received a heads up from a LEO friend

    No, it suggests some LEOs are just as susceptible to hoaxes as everyone's most gullible, email-forwarding relative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishmael View Post
    No, it suggests some LEOs are just as susceptible to hoaxes as everyone's most gullible, email-forwarding relative.
    Perhaps. Not if it comes from knowledge from instances occurring in his area. Perhaps GH can speak to this, instead of calling it gullibility and "hoaxes."
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    Maybe I am in a minority here but how do you get a piece of paper to stick to a window? Paper, tape, glue. Is this happening outside Office Depots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Sure. Which only shows there aren't that many instances of thefts while running.

    But the LEO's "alert" (from the OP) suggests it's becoming a more-common tactic.
    I think it says more about the general self preservation instinct most folks possess when faced with a moving vehicle that has no occupants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    This may be a "myth" but it sounds plausible to me. I'd probably see a paper on my back window before I got into the car but who knows...

    I will say that I realized how vulnerable I was while loading groceries into my trunk the other day. I was busy throwing bags in, thinking about what I needed to do next and the shopping cart guy came up behind me and asked me if he could take my cart back. He scared the heck out of me, I had NO idea anyone was behind me (and he wasn't even trying to be quiet). It was a real wake up call for me.

    Another very vulnerable time, for women especially, is when we're buckling kids into their car seats. Our backs are turned, we're busy, kids are talking etc. It would be so easy for someone to run past and grab our purse or worse.

    Last year we had a rash of people driving past elderly women in the Wal-Mart parking lot, the person on the passanger side would lean out the window and grab the woman's purse out of her hand or off her arm and the driver would speed off. It happened in the blink of an eye and they were hard to catch, although they finally were.
    I always watch the guy approaching the woman in the parking lot while she's unloading her groceries/buckling her kids. That could be my wife in that situation. It's definitely a vulnerable position to be in.

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    It appears he isn't much of a friend if he did not verify the info before passing it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aus71383 View Post
    I always watch the guy approaching the woman in the parking lot while she's unloading her groceries/buckling her kids. That could be my wife in that situation. It's definitely a vulnerable position to be in.

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    Parking lots can be scary places - especially with the distraction of buckling kids. Several years ago, I'd taken the kids to a pet store and had just gotten everyone buckled in and closed the van door when a disheveled man walked up. He said "you got babies in there?" and looked in the van windows. An old car pulled up with a much older woman driving, she yelled to him "come on Keith, let's go!" His response was "wait momma! I'm gonna git me a woman!" She yelled at him some more and he got in the car with her. Scared me to death. I pay a lot more attention to who's walking around in a parking lot now and for a long time climbed in the van with the kids, locking the door behind me before buckling them and climbing to the drivers seat.
    I laugh about the "I'm gonna git me a woman" response to his momma now but at the time it was freaky!!
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    I'll check to see what kind of paper it was but I'd suspect something as simple as a postit note paper. I've got a stack of postits right here at my computer desk.

    My LEO friend told me that this had happened in the jurisdiction next to his. His brother is an LEO there & he was the one whp put the word out.

    I've heard that this is a hoax months ago. Well evidently it isn't anymore. As it was suggested maybe the hoax call on the web gave some BGs the idea.
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    OK....urban myth or not, it makes sense. Why tempt fate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    This may be a "myth" but it sounds plausible to me. I'd probably see a paper on my back window before I got into the car but who knows...

    I will say that I realized how vulnerable I was while loading groceries into my trunk the other day. I was busy throwing bags in, thinking about what I needed to do next and the shopping cart guy came up behind me and asked me if he could take my cart back. He scared the heck out of me, I had NO idea anyone was behind me (and he wasn't even trying to be quiet). It was a real wake up call for me.

    Another very vulnerable time, for women especially, is when we're buckling kids into their car seats. Our backs are turned, we're busy, kids are talking etc. It would be so easy for someone to run past and grab our purse or worse.

    Last year we had a rash of people driving past elderly women in the Wal-Mart parking lot, the person on the passanger side would lean out the window and grab the woman's purse out of her hand or off her arm and the driver would speed off. It happened in the blink of an eye and they were hard to catch, although they finally were.
    +1 to the bolded part. My grocery shopping has previously been the time when I've been at my least "aware" and most vulnerable. Packing the bags in the trunk, buckling up the kids, etc. The often routine errands parents do on a daily basis make us the softest targets for crimes of opportunity, and the safety of our families is worthy of attention to "hardening" and strengthening our situation awareness.

    Changes I've made to the "parking lot" routine:
    Either the older children buckle up the little guy or I get in the back (with doors closed) to buckle him
    Purse goes inside the passenger compartment (which is locked) before I load the trunk
    My purse does not contain anything of value (phone, keys, and wallet are kept on person or in pockets--makes me look like a "dude," but I'm not out to win any beauty pageants either.)

    I NEVER get out of my car for ANY reason without turning off the engine and removing the keys (especially with kids inside). Car's insured, but my kids aren't replaceable.
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    yeah! I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    Um, yeah. It'd be pretty hard to not spot it before I got in the car to begin with, and if they try to stick it on after I get in, they better have their go-go-gadget legs moving pretty quick!
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