Ways women can reduce chances of being sexually assaulted.

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    Ways women can reduce chances of being sexually assaulted.

    I'd like to get a list started of reduction measures.

    I suggest looking around in the parking lot while you are putting grociers in your vehicle.
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    SA, Look inside your car before getting in. CC a firearm and knife on your person. Avoid parking in dark areas of parking lots long distances from grocery etc. Try to not find yourself isolated from the public while shopping etc. If all else fails and you are grabbed before you can react to defend yourself, scream, fight, make all the ruckus you can to get the attention of others.

    At home, all entry points locked. Be within arms reach of your firearm at all times. If you must look out dont look through door windows or peepholes as a BG kicking in the door will likely kick you down with it. DONT open the door to salesmen, strangers, etc. Speak from inside while not standing in front of the door.

    When coming home to an empty house. Be alert to any signs that someone may have gotten inside while you were gone and call 911 if you have any doubt. Even if you dont think anyone has make a routine of checking house firearm at the ready when you return for an intruder hiding in a room or closet. Some may call this clearing and question it but its much better to do that than be caught in the shower by a rapist that was hiding in the closet. You cant realistically call 911 to have your house checked everytime you come home.

    If single and dating dont be alone with someone until you know them fairly well. Trust your instincts. If something feels wrong about a person there probably is something wrong.

    It wouldnt hurt to mess up your hair push a grocery cart full of junk and curse occasionally like a bag lady with Turrets either but that may be pushing it a bit

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    Being most women are assaulted by someone they know, the most effective move is to stay away from bad men. Do not make friends with men who are unstable, have anger problems, or substance problems. Of the women I know who have been raped, none of the incidents involved a guy with a ski mask in a dark parking lot. Just some guy they thought would be fun to hang out with and get drunk and high with, but turned out to be a real scum. Of course, if she has those kinds of problems (especially substance) herself she's going to attract men like that, so cleaning herself up will be necessary too.

    A lot of rapes happen on hiking & jogging trails, in parks, on isolated beaches and carrying a gun is a good solution for that type of attack, probably the only solution for a woman out alone. Maybe a little .357 mag revolver, something really loud that will let anyone in the area know something is going on if she has to shoot it.

    In urban areas, parking lots, stairwells etc. the usual urban precautions of just avoiding isolated and dark areas will go a long way, and the gun will help in the times you can't avoid them. Also everyone should know an important self-defense rule when dealing with an assailant: when someone approaches you, grabs you, and tells you or tries to force you to go to some other place with him, never get there. The only reason a criminal tries to take you behind a building or into a car is that he's afraid to do what he wants to do where you are currently standing, so the showdown should happen right there, or at least before he gets to his intended destination with you.

    Home invasions frequently include a sexual assault, and I think we all know which tool is best for home defense! The only problem is a lot of those crimes are push-ins when she unlocks the door and in that case she won't have time to get to the shotgun. She needs a strong door & lock (vertical deadbolt is best) and absolutely cannot unlock it unless she's sure she knows the person, no matter what kind of con he tries to pull. Recognizing and resisting a con is the most important skill in this case.

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    Maintianing good situational awareness and avoiding being alone late at night (working, night out with the girls, etc.) are all 'steps', but each woman (and man for that matter) has to evaluate her situation and utilize what she has availiable and think..... use your head. It's a tired sayn', but you can't rape a .38.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaOkmyx View Post
    Being most women are assaulted by someone they know, the most effective move is to stay away from bad men. Do not make friends with men who are unstable, have anger problems, or substance problems. Of the women I know who have been raped, none of the incidents involved a guy with a ski mask in a dark parking lot. Just some guy they thought would be fun to hang out with and get drunk and high with, but turned out to be a real scum. Of course, if she has those kinds of problems (especially substance) herself she's going to attract men like that, so cleaning herself up will be necessary too.

    A lot of rapes happen on hiking & jogging trails, in parks, on isolated beaches and carrying a gun is a good solution for that type of attack, probably the only solution for a woman out alone. Maybe a little .357 mag revolver, something really loud that will let anyone in the area know something is going on if she has to shoot it.

    In urban areas, parking lots, stairwells etc. the usual urban precautions of just avoiding isolated and dark areas will go a long way, and the gun will help in the times you can't avoid them. Also everyone should know an important self-defense rule when dealing with an assailant: when someone approaches you, grabs you, and tells you or tries to force you to go to some other place with him, never get there. The only reason a criminal tries to take you behind a building or into a car is that he's afraid to do what he wants to do where you are currently standing, so the showdown should happen right there, or at least before he gets to his intended destination with you.

    Home invasions frequently include a sexual assault, and I think we all know which tool is best for home defense! The only problem is a lot of those crimes are push-ins when she unlocks the door and in that case she won't have time to get to the shotgun. She needs a strong door & lock (vertical deadbolt is best) and absolutely cannot unlock it unless she's sure she knows the person, no matter what kind of con he tries to pull. Recognizing and resisting a con is the most important skill in this case.

    I have several years under my belt investgating sex crimes. (This was before the advent of the "Special Victims" unit)
    The above advice, and information is about the best I've seen yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrymut View Post
    ... reduction measures.
    Same basic precautions as with avoiding any other violent crime. Among other things ...

    • Not knowing any "assaulting" type people. (Not likely.)
    • Not going outdoors. (Not likely, and not likely to stop an "invader.")
    • Having a home with some "hardened" features (security doors, strengthened windows, "proper" home layout, alarm, defensible interior bedroom, dogs).
    • Being circumspect, aware and in "condition yellow/orange" at all times, when out and about.
    • Being armed, trained and capable of employing force to withstand attack.
    • Avoiding fixed routines (times, places) as much as possible.
    • Avoiding going solo, when out and about.
    • Avoiding being out of yelling distance from others.
    • Avoiding higher-risk places (ie, stop-and-rob stores), though anyplace can be targeted.
    • Staying somewhat under the radar (dress, demeanor, speech).
    • Remaining fit and healthy, to the degree possible.
    • Wearing shoes/clothing that can support a highly-physical defense against a violent crime (if needed) instead of hindering it. (ie, flip-flops or spike-heel shoes can hinder running or fighting).
    • Having a plan, for various situations; having alternatives to those plans.
    • Sharing the plan(s) with trusted others, combining forces (ie, you and spouse on same page).
    • Avoid parking in remote areas that are out of view.
    • Avoid dallying while getting into or out of a vehicle.
    • Avoid loitering outside a venue, allowing someone who's tailed you to turn the tables.
    • When shopping, only purchase enough that can be quickly placed in vehicle, to avoid loitering.
    • If carrying items, only carry so much as to retain your situational awareness; avoid utter distraction and head-in-clouds.
    • Report suspicious or threatening behavior.
    • Have a cell phone.
    • Have paper/pen in case need to write down details (ie, license plate nbr, description) if a situation has arisen and was avoided.
    • Know your local police/sheriff forces, and be known to them. Leverage their knowledge about your town and its issues, crime-wise and in terms of protecting yourself.
    • etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    SA, Look inside your car before getting in. CC a firearm and knife on your person. Avoid parking in dark areas of parking lots long distances from grocery etc. Try to not find yourself isolated from the public while shopping etc. If all else fails and you are grabbed before you can react to defend yourself, scream, fight, make all the ruckus you can to get the attention of others.

    At home, all entry points locked. Be within arms reach of your firearm at all times. If you must look out dont look through door windows or peepholes as a BG kicking in the door will likely kick you down with it. DONT open the door to salesmen, strangers, etc. Speak from inside while not standing in front of the door.

    When coming home to an empty house. Be alert to any signs that someone may have gotten inside while you were gone and call 911 if you have any doubt. Even if you dont think anyone has make a routine of checking house firearm at the ready when you return for an intruder hiding in a room or closet. Some may call this clearing and question it but its much better to do that than be caught in the shower by a rapist that was hiding in the closet. You cant realistically call 911 to have your house checked everytime you come home.

    If single and dating dont be alone with someone until you know them fairly well. Trust your instincts. If something feels wrong about a person there probably is something wrong.

    It wouldnt hurt to mess up your hair push a grocery cart full of junk and curse occasionally like a bag lady with Turrets either but that may be pushing it a bit
    Good common sense advice. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaOkmyx View Post
    Being most women are assaulted by someone they know, the most effective move is to stay away from bad men. Do not make friends with men who are unstable, have anger problems, or substance problems. Of the women I know who have been raped, none of the incidents involved a guy with a ski mask in a dark parking lot. Just some guy they thought would be fun to hang out with and get drunk and high with, but turned out to be a real scum. Of course, if she has those kinds of problems (especially substance) herself she's going to attract men like that, so cleaning herself up will be necessary too.

    A lot of rapes happen on hiking & jogging trails, in parks, on isolated beaches and carrying a gun is a good solution for that type of attack, probably the only solution for a woman out alone. Maybe a little .357 mag revolver, something really loud that will let anyone in the area know something is going on if she has to shoot it.

    In urban areas, parking lots, stairwells etc. the usual urban precautions of just avoiding isolated and dark areas will go a long way, and the gun will help in the times you can't avoid them. Also everyone should know an important self-defense rule when dealing with an assailant: when someone approaches you, grabs you, and tells you or tries to force you to go to some other place with him, never get there. The only reason a criminal tries to take you behind a building or into a car is that he's afraid to do what he wants to do where you are currently standing, so the showdown should happen right there, or at least before he gets to his intended destination with you.

    Home invasions frequently include a sexual assault, and I think we all know which tool is best for home defense! The only problem is a lot of those crimes are push-ins when she unlocks the door and in that case she won't have time to get to the shotgun. She needs a strong door & lock (vertical deadbolt is best) and absolutely cannot unlock it unless she's sure she knows the person, no matter what kind of con he tries to pull. Recognizing and resisting a con is the most important skill in this case.
    More common sense advice. You guys are on a roll. Thanks
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    "Get a Rosey O'donnell costume complete with face mask "

    ^^ That would do it for me. I was going to post something but some might not find it tasteful or politically correct, and you guys know I wouldn't want to offend anyone's precious feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Same basic precautions as with avoiding any other violent crime. Among other things ...

    • Not knowing any "assaulting" type people. (Not likely.)
    • Not going outdoors. (Not likely, and not likely to stop an "invader.")
    • Having a home with some "hardened" features (security doors, strengthened windows, "proper" home layout, alarm, defensible interior bedroom, dogs).
    • Being circumspect, aware and in "condition yellow/orange" at all times, when out and about.
    • Being armed, trained and capable of employing force to withstand attack.
    • Avoiding fixed routines (times, places) as much as possible.
    • Avoiding going solo, when out and about.
    • Avoiding being out of yelling distance from others.
    • Avoiding higher-risk places (ie, stop-and-rob stores), though anyplace can be targeted.
    • Staying somewhat under the radar (dress, demeanor, speech).
    • Remaining fit and healthy, to the degree possible.
    • Wearing shoes/clothing that can support a highly-physical defense against a violent crime (if needed) instead of hindering it. (ie, flip-flops or spike-heel shoes can hinder running or fighting).
    • Having a plan, for various situations; having alternatives to those plans.
    • Sharing the plan(s) with trusted others, combining forces (ie, you and spouse on same page).
    • Avoid parking in remote areas that are out of view.
    • Avoid dallying while getting into or out of a vehicle.
    • Avoid loitering outside a venue, allowing someone who's tailed you to turn the tables.
    • When shopping, only purchase enough that can be quickly placed in vehicle, to avoid loitering.
    • If carrying items, only carry so much as to retain your situational awareness; avoid utter distraction and head-in-clouds.
    • Report suspicious or threatening behavior.
    • Have a cell phone.
    • Have paper/pen in case need to write down details (ie, license plate nbr, description) if a situation has arisen and was avoided.
    • Know your local police/sheriff forces, and be known to them. Leverage their knowledge about your town and its issues, crime-wise and in terms of protecting yourself.
    • etc
    Great. I am going to copy several of these off and put them on Facebook for other women to see and send copies to my daughter. You guys are "spot on". Thanks.
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    Most everything good has already been listed.

    If I'm out in the minivan with the kids, I always park out in the open, away from other cars. It's a big vehicle, I have two kids that need to go in and out, and a big trunk door I need to open and pull a stroller out and groceries in. I park away from other cars, which leaves me with lots of wide open space around me where I can see - less chance of some weirdo hiding behind a car and sneaking up on me. Kids go in the van first and get buckled in, then the groceries. My keyfob opens all the doors, so there's no fiddling around.

    Be hands free as much as possible. Put the baby in the shopping cart and put the preschooler in the cart, too. Crossbody handbag.

    Sensible footwear with good traction that stay on the feet while running are great for many reasons.
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