This is a discussion on I thought I was going to get jumped over a t-shirt at the mall! within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by pittypat21 Wow. Now that's the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard. Unbelievable. Hmmm... packing heat, agitating a readily identifiable thug... me thinks ...
Since when is it illeagle to laugh......? Maybe the Dems will go after Laugh Control next.............and who cares what those gentlemen thought anyway.....they're fast to get in your face.
Didn't kill anybody, diffused a situation quickly without any need of violence, didn't chase anybody down, didn't get into a fistfight, wasn't in a neighborhood at night, wasn't part of neighborhood watch, etc. Not to mention that choice of apparel doesn't make somebody a "readily identifiable thug". I see no comparison.
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
-General James Mattis, USMC
So now we cannot "laugh" at something we may find ironically funny and stupid all at the same time? And we cannot laugh in safety because some hot head thinks he and his Homeboy's are dissed by that laughter? Since when? Who's rule or law?
Put the shoe on the other foot and had the OP had a Confederate Battle Flag displayed proudly upon his person and the said individuals decided to laugh or "comment" about it, would the reaction be any different? I hate this double standard that it's ok to laugh at, joke about or simply rip apart some things but Heaven help us if we diss the President or anyone who loves the guy.
I can remember people saying really horrible things about G.W. Bush and that was just fine, even patriotic to some people. But now we cannot have an opposite opinion about the current White House Occupant and who he is compared with?
The OP had every right under the Bill of Rights to freely express himself, including laughter. The two thugs didn't have the right to be agressors and potentially attack.
I'm sorry, I stand with the OP and he is right and he did not intentionally intend to escalate anything, the two thugs took it to be that way.
"A Smith & Wesson always beats 4 aces!"
The Man Prayer. "Im a man, I can change, if I have to.....I guess!" ~ Red Green
I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but as I stated in the original post, I think (my opinion) that comparing a man who died fighting for equal rights for all men to the man who is currently trying to strip away our rights (again my opinion) is ridiculous.
Disarming innocent people does not protect innocent people.
Don't ever think that the reason I'm peaceful is because I'm afraid to be violent!
Here's the way I look through the stained glass...
If you're wearing pictures, logo's, sayings, etc. in public, you are advertising and inviting public attention and scrutiny. Only exception being tank tops and mini skirts of course!
I think, therefore I am...
<the Menace>
To some members this post may sound redundant but it may apply here:
"As a gun owner, you have to be cool-headed, more-so than the police ever have to be. You do not ever run around pretending to be the police while carrying a gun because then, stuff like this can happen. You do not start stuff, act aggressively, flip the bird, roll your eyes, talk smack, or even raise your voice to anyone, ever.
A combat instructor (who happened to be Buddhist and a Marine) once said to me:
"From now on, when dealing with (ed.) crazy / possibly violent people, you will lose every argument. You are always wrong. You are sorry for impinging on their day.
You will apologize and apologize again. You will back the heck down. You will put your tail between your legs. You will let them talk stuff about your lady friend. You will let them call your mother a witch and a hooker, your dad a punk.
You have no ego. You do all this because if you are the one to start a fight, by default that fight now has a gun in it, and if you start losing, you're going to pull it and kill him.
Even if you don't go to jail because you could convince the jury that it was self-defense, you're going to have to live with the fact that you took someone's life in defense of your pride and ego not your life.
You are not the police, so don't act like them. Though many of you [civilians] are better shots than the police, you do not have the training, the continuum of force policy, a union, plus free lawyers protecting you if you screw up.
In closing he added “After backing down and trying to apologize, if at any time you then feel your life or that of a loved one is in danger, put three rounds into his [cardiothoracic] vault, call the police, call your lawyer, give a statement, go home, and sleep like a baby. You did all you could for your attacker, and he was the one that made the final decision...... to kill himself."
Luis
"Everybody's got a plan, 'til they get hit".
Mike Tyson
A armed society is a polite society, I do not care for some remarks made by inlaws and some think my 2A tea shirt is over the top but I remember who we are and what we stand for, enough said
It's a shame that the new breed of lefties don't know history. Just because both men are black, famous and politically connected doesn't make them the same.
Dr. King is probably rolling over in his grave...
US Air Force, 1986 - 2007
"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." George Mason
I can't express how pathetically unfunny I think this is. Not the shirt... which, whether you or I agree with it, he has a right to wear... but your behavior.
Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but you shouldn't be carrying if you can't control yourself to prevent yourself from picking fights.
Your comment of:
Is the real clincher. So you're saying that if the mall wasn't crowded... you would have drawn? If so, you would have been in the wrong.I was carrying but the mall was just crowded enough that I didn't want to draw.