This is a discussion on I thought I was going to get jumped over a t-shirt at the mall! within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott The OP asked for other options in this specific situation and everybody has been straying off on rants about this ...
Honestly you shouldn't provoke people when carrying. You have an obligation to avoid confrontation. Also you should have insinuated you were laughing about your bluetooth conversation to de-escalate the perceived disrespect. Glad you're ok though...
I would have laughed too.
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Now lets move on. Op laughs, ten feet distant, no aggression or threat in that. Is confronted with verbal aggression by 3 to one and the one physically impaired to boot. the 3 escalate to phyically attacking or jumping on as you put it the one physically handicapped person
At that point whatever the cause the physical attack is initiated by 3 against against one older physically impaired person.
Drawing and failing retreat of the aggressors to stop the attack we now have reasonable believe of seriously bodily harm at least or death at worst.
I seriously doubt if the idiots had went that far op is bunking anywhere but at home.
Should have happened no. Did no. What starts as one thing changes once one is attacked by mulitiple attackers however it started. Much less a laugh.
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(Soapbox) So now we must be so politically correct as not be able to laugh at something funny because it would offend someone. Looks like several folks need to get a thicker skin. How does carrying make anyone prohibited from laughing. How was the OP able to determine the reaction of others. Now exercising our 2 admedment rights limits our 1 admedment rights. I think we sometimes take ourselves too seriously. I've seen the mall rats too with nothing better to do than look for any opportunity for a confrontation. That's what they do. If they hadn't have approached the OP they may have used any excuse to approach someone else. Glad the OP used his intelligence to overcome. I see irony in the stupid shirt too. You don't need anyone's permission to laugh and exercise your rights just like he has every right to wear the shirt. Exercising our 2 admedment rights makes us no less reactionary and human than others, why should it. i say we are more responsible for not provoking confrotation, not slink into the shadows to avoid life. Isnt thay why we carry so we can live our live free of harm? The OP didn't say a word. Just laughter. Looks like the only fool was the mall rat. (Off soap box)
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I had something similar happen when I was stationed out in north Carolina. A couple of thug wanna- be types said I had looked at them the wrong way. Now I had both my wife and son with me. These guys told my they were going to follow me to my car and handle it there. I had my wife dial 911 and be ready to press send. I then headed to my vehicle after talking to a security guard that was " going to handle it". When we were about 100 ft from my truck I noticed the same 2 guys walking on the row over from us. I had my wife press call on her phone and hurry to the vehicle. I drew and placed my 27 behind my right leg. I told them we had called the cops and they were on the way. Luckily, they decided that they didn't w want to go to jail. If they had come any closer my family or tried to fight me I would have used lethal force, just glad it didn't come to this.
taking someones laugh the way THEY intend, and forcing THEIR hand, looks like disparity of force IMHO.
You being retired LEO should know about these little things.
The OP would have went home fully exonerated, with whatever he would have done to these idiot bottom feeders to protect himself from a savage attack brought on by an obvious disparity of force..
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And... that's the final word. This thread has drifted off course.
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