Traveling through AR to TX soon

[perfection]

Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

"Note:
A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."

Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[perfection]

Not all at once, please... ;)

[GhostMaker]

Hey Perfection - There was a post going around from a fellow member who was going to San Antonio that had some good information in it. I do know that Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas reciprocate our Tennessee permits. Texas allows carry in places that have less than 51% of their sales from alcohol, but they don't allow open carry like they do here. Also, Texas allows a knife length of 5 inches whereas it is only 4 inches here.

[HillyBilly]

why don't people contact the ag's office or the sheriff's office where you are going & get the information first hand???
After you get stopped are you gonna tell the cop, "The guys on the inner net said it was legal so you're all jacked up."

[MLittle]

Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

"Note:
A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."

Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!

Well, with a little research all the information your looking for is readily available, but here is a short list of don'ts in Texas,

You can't carry in:

1. Schools
2. Polling places on day of elections
3. Courts
4. Correctional facilities
5. Racetracks
6. Secure areas at Airports
7. Anyplace displaying the proper 30.06 language stating concealed carry is prohibited
8. Bars and Clubs where 51% or greater of revenue is derived from liquor sales
9. Sporting Events - High School, College, Professional
10. While intoxicated


That's about it for Texas. Texas is a "gun friendly" stage by and large....you shouldn't have any problems concealing provided you carry a permit from a state recognized and accepted by Texas.

[perfection]

why don't people contact the ag's office or the sheriff's office where you are going & get the information first hand???
After you get stopped are you gonna tell the cop, "The guys on the inner net said it was legal so you're all jacked up."

I've found that the cops in my state usually know next to nothing about CC law. I assume that is probably true of other states. I have done a significant amount of reading the fine print of TX law, so I don't think I'm being irresponsible here. Part of the purpose of the forum, as I see it, is to hear from people "on the ground" as far as how the law is implemented in their area. I am doing my own research as well as making this post. Also, I always independently verify whatever I hear about gun laws here on forums. As far as contacting the AG, in TN you can only get a written AG opinion if you are a member of government. Not sure about TX. I realize there are people who base everything they hear about gun laws on random junk they heard on a forum. I am not one of them. This and other forums only serve to supplement my knowledge and I always independently verify.

So relax, already!!

[Snub44]

...you isn't a newbie...how 'bout you do some good old internet research like we do before we answer you...instead of gettin' impatient because we haven't answered?!!! you been spoiled...
...where you headed in Texas? (no need to feel pushed to answer in the next __ hours...

...OK, I'm relaxed...might even take a nap...

[perfection]

Well, with a little research all the information your looking for is readily available, but here is a short list of don'ts in Texas,

You can't carry in:

1. Schools
2. Polling places on day of elections
3. Courts
4. Correctional facilities
5. Racetracks
6. Secure areas at Airports
7. Anyplace displaying the proper 30.06 language stating concealed carry is prohibited
8. Bars and Clubs where 51% or greater of revenue is derived from liquor sales
9. Sporting Events - High School, College, Professional
10. While intoxicated


That's about it for Texas. Texas is a "gun friendly" stage by and large....you shouldn't have any problems concealing provided you carry a permit from a state recognized and accepted by Texas.

Thanks. This is my first road trip going armed and I was glad to also read that I can carry at rest areas in AR and TX. Not that I would ever stop at one if I could possibly help it!

[perfection]

...you isn't a newbie...how 'bout you do some good old internet research like we do before we answer you...instead of gettin' impatient because we haven't answered?!!! you been spoiled...
...where you headed in Texas? (no need to feel pushed to answer in the next __ hours...

Well, I read through everything handgunlaw.us had for AR and TX and also other research. Guess I am just a little nervous since this is my first road trip going armed. I suppose it was bad manners bumping the post. Sorries!

I will be in Greenville, TX.

[Snub44]

...nice little town...friendly folks there...

...here's a source you can dig through and KNOW it's accurate: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/interne...rms/chl-16.pdf

[perfection]

...nice little town...friendly folks there...

...here's a source you can dig through and KNOW it's accurate: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/interne...rms/chl-16.pdf

Yeah, I read most of that a few weeks ago. Confused me at first that some places are banned but then you find out as you read that they are only banned if they are posted.

[Snub44]

...that was done on purpose to mollify, pacify, and permit...works pretty good, too, as long as we carry CONCEALED and don't flap our yaps...

...that little book'll keep ya outa trouble on carryin', deadly force, Castle doctrine, carryin' in vehicle...kinda like a Reader's Digest version of Tx law for us carryin' folks (and welcome guests...even those who're carryin'!)

[Hopyard]

Been looking at handgunlaw.us to prepare for my upcoming road trip from TN through AR to TX.

Looks like pepper spray is iffy in TX??!:

"Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser..."

"Note:
A man was just recently arrested for having a 4 oz chemical spray that said Police on it. He was released and no charges were filed. Small to some is large to others. Something with Police Grade etc may get you in trouble. Stay with what is a small container and sold for personal safety."

Also, in AR, a prohibitive posting just has to say "carrying a handgun is prohibited"? Wow.

Anything else anybody can think of that I should be aware of as far as the behavior of cops, etc.? I will be traveling from West TN to northeast TX area.

Thanks!

I take it you are asking if it is OK to carry pepper in TX. Yes. I do not know if there is or is not a legal definition of
"small." I am holding a can of Fox Labs Mean Green with 1.5 ounces. It is a reasonable size container, not the
keychain size.

Note to your note, the man was released and no charges were filed.

I'd think that tells you 4 ounces is probably about where the def. of small comes in. The stuff about "for law enforcement use only"
and "police grade" is advertising and has nothing to do with law. Again, note that the man was released without charges
being filed.

Suggestion, use common sense. I've owned much larger cannisters than what I just described. Not worth the
problems caused by size unless you plan on finding yourself in the middle of a riot. Better to keep two
modest size containers; one in a pocket and an extra in another pocket or the car-- taking our high heat and
the temps car cabins reach mid-afternoon into account.

[perfection]

I take it you are asking if it is OK to carry pepper in TX. Yes. I do not know if there is or is not a legal definition of
"small." I am holding a can of Fox Labs Mean Green with 1.5 ounces. It is a reasonable size container, not the
keychain size.

Note to your note, the man was released and no charges were filed.

I'd think that tells you 4 ounces is probably about where the def. of small comes in. The stuff about "for law enforcement use only"
and "police grade" is advertising and has nothing to do with law. Again, note that the man was released without charges
being filed.

Suggestion, use common sense. I've owned much larger cannisters than what I just described. Not worth the
problems caused by size unless you plan on finding yourself in the middle of a riot. Better to keep two
modest size containers; one in a pocket and an extra in another pocket or the car-- taking our high heat and
the temps car cabins reach mid-afternoon into account.

Ban high capacity pepper sprays!

[Hopyard]

Ban high capacity pepper sprays!

That is what the legislature has done.