Air Travel with Pistol too much trouble!

Air Travel with Pistol too much trouble!

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    Air Travel with Pistol too much trouble!

    Hello Guys,

    So my Wife and I are flying to San Antonio on the 4TH of July, I am planning to bring EDC I figured it was a given I plan to carry whenever wherever I can. I have an old friend who doesn't carry thinks I am nuts! Another friend who does carry is afraid my pistol may get stolen!
    Neither one believes it is as easy as I think it is, I have done my research declare it locked hard case etc. I feel prepared. I even contacted hotel, no in room safe but they have small safes for guest use ( I am picturing something like PO Box's ) and securing a pistol is fine with them.
    God Bless Texas!

    Any additional thoughts or considerations are appreciated,
    Thanks Mike

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    "Lost" luggage is always a risk, packed firearm or not. I've used the hotel safety deposit boxes before for my firearm without incident. If you want to take your firearm, take it. You don't need anyone else's concurrence or concerns.
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    It has only added about 15 minutes at each airport. The key is to go into it knowing exactly what you are doing. If you have the "ummm I have a firearm to declare, where do I go?" you'll be met with

    Take the "I know exactly what needs to be done" approach, and the TSA folks wont doubt you as much. Afterall, they usually have no idea what needs to be done. I usually walk up and say "hi there, I'll need one of those orange firearm declaration tags to put in my box. The ammo is already in an approved box separate from the firearm, and the firearm is taken down and unloaded. I just need one of those orange tags"..... Even if they haven't done this before, they usually take your confidence as "I do this all the time" which makes the whole transaction smoother. It's worked for me plenty of times. I've never had an issue. It's worth it in the end, regardless of what your friends may think of you

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    Thanks OldVet, I am sure you are right about potential issues, and I know you are right about anyone else's concurrence!

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    Thanks kb2wji,

    Thats an excellent tip! They will have no idea it's my first time doing this! I will report back when we return home.

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    Assuming you are flying out of NY State, I recommend you thoroughly read and absorb the TSA regulations and your carrier's regulations, print a copy of both and have them on hand, ensure you comply with all of the silly state laws and give yourself a good 1 hour to 90 minute cushion to make your flight out. San Antonio can be expected to go relatively smoothly.

    I would guess the friends' recommendations are largely based on the unique environment toward armed citizens in NY State.

    BTW, my thoughts on firearms in a hotel room: There is absolutely no frigging way I would stay in a hotel room unarmed. I would be very surprised if the hotel had signage that meets TX requirements and even more surprised if that signage applied to a room one had rented for the night. I can't say for sure either way, but unless the hotel provides an armed guard outside my door, there will be a loaded firearm in my room. I have no control over who strolls into a hotel room with or without a key, and those swinging bolt locks? Yeah they have a tool that opens those; I've used one before. Just my opinion; take it for what it's worth!
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    Thanks kb2wji, thats a great tip! They will have no idea it's my first time doing this!
    I will report back when we return home.

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    I've done it a couple of times. It was easy. Just follow the airline's rules and all applicable laws and you'll be fine.
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    Normally I'd say it's no big deal, in my experience it takes an extra 2 minutes and that's it.

    But NY may be a different issue, we've all heard the stories of people visiting NY and getting arrested at the airport for gun violations they didn't understand. So make sure you do your research on that.

    As for the hotel, I use the same lockbox as in my luggage, since it has a steel cable that allows you to secure it to a fixed furnishing, bedframe, etc. But really, in TX you shouldn't have to leave it in your room unless you're going to bars. Most places are OK to carry, 30.06 signs are fairly rare except for hospitals and entertainment venues.

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    I've flown with firearms a few times and it has never been a problem. Here's what I've done:

    Check-in: I walk up to the check-in counter where I get my boarding pass and check my luggage. I simply say "I have an item to declare", and either they ask if it is a firearm, to which I say "yes", and then they hand me the little orange paper to fill out (with my name, address, phone number, and flight number), or they don't ask and just hand me the paper. I fill it out and then have either opened up the case and put the paper inside, or have had it taped on the outside (depending on the airport). My other checked bags go on the conveyer belt and the bag with the gun is put aside.

    Security: After putting the orange paper with my gun/case, a security agent is called over to escort me and my bag to their security area (not the same area that I walk through the radiation machine) where I stand there and watch the agent either put my bag through their own xray scanner or xray and swab the case for explosive powder. Either way, once the scan (usually takes just a minute or two) is done, they tell me I'm good to go and they take my bag away with the rest of the checked luggage.

    That's all. Just make sure you get to the airport about 15 minutes earlier than you normally would and you should be alright. Follow the TSA and airline guidelines and you'll be golden. It really isn't that big of a deal. I was really nervous the first time, but it went smoothly and had no issues.

    The only thing that worries me now is arrival and making sure all bags show up. My firearm is usually worth more then all the rest of the contents of my luggage combined, so I always breathe a sigh of relief when I see the bag show up.
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    What about mailing your firearm to your destination via whatever is legal in three pieces. Mag, slide, lower? Is that naive? I have heard of TSA stealing things and according to some whistleblowers, it's rampant. The sheer volume of travelers keeps it down in the noise.

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    It isn't difficult, but theft is a concern.

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    To prevent the firearm from being stolen (and they've stolen the whole case) I've seen people cable the case to the metal frame of their luggage. That makes it harder than just opening the TSA luggage lock and taking out a case. They'll need something strong to cut the security cable. Also take photos of how it's packed just in case you need them in the future to show tampering/damage in case of theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanninman View Post
    Thanks OldVet, I am sure you are right about potential issues, and I know you are right about anyone else's concurrence!
    I'm always right. When I'm wrong, I'm still righter than everyone else.
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    I think it depends on what airports you are going thru. From the MKE to out West AZ or NV no big deal. If I fly out of O'hare or go east I will keep the gun at home in the safe. Or Drive to my destination
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