Kitchen Gun and the LAW regarding minor children access to firearms

Kitchen Gun and the LAW regarding minor children access to firearms

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    Kitchen Gun and the LAW regarding minor children access to firearms

    So my wife posed the question about having one of my pistols secured in a safe on our first floor just in case something was to happen and she needed it. Now my question, with laws stating that guns must be secured and not accessible to minor children would having a safe mounted somewhere out of the way and a gun locked it in be within the law? Iím thinking I would be, would just like some opinions.


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    Yes, being locked in a safe is secure. Just make sure that the children are not allowed in the area when the safe is being opened. They will learn how to do it without even realizing it.

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    Easy answer. Yup it meets the requirements of NC statutes if your talking about in NC. MI I'm not sure of. A safe or lock box that is kept locked while it contains a firearm meets the requirements.

    NC Statute ß 14-315.1. Storage of firearms to protect minors.

    (a) Any person who resides in the same premises as a minor, owns or possesses a firearm, and stores or leaves the firearm (i) in a condition that the firearm can be discharged and (ii) in a manner that the person knew or should have known that an unsupervised minor would be able to gain access to the firearm, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor if a minor gains access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor's parents or a person having charge of the minor and the minor:

    (1) Possesses it in violation of G.S. 14-269.2(b);

    (2) Exhibits it in a public place in a careless, angry, or threatening manner;

    (3) Causes personal injury or death with it not in self defense; or

    (4) Uses it in the commission of a crime.

    (b) Nothing in this section shall prohibit a person from carrying a firearm on his or her body, or placed in such close proximity that it can be used as easily and quickly as if carried on the body.

    (c) This section shall not apply if the minor obtained the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

    (d) "Minor" as used in this section means a person under 18 years of age who is not emancipated. (1993, c. 558, s. 2; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 11.)
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    You list NC and MI, so when in NC

    Any individual who resides with a minor, who owns or possesses a firearm, and stores or leaves that firearm in a condition that the firearm can be discharged, and in a manner that the individual knew, or should have known, that an unsupervised minor would be able to gain access to the firearm, is guilty of a misdemeanor if such minor gains access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minorís parents or a person having charge of the minor, and the minor in turn possesses that weapon unlawfully on any campus or educational property in North Carolina; exhibits the weapon in a public place in a careless, angry, or threatening manner; causes personal injury or death with the weapon not in self defense; or uses the weapon in the commission of a crime. A minor is defined in this law as anyone under the age of 18 who is not emancipated.
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    This law goes on to provide that it shall not prohibit an individual from carrying a firearm on his or her body, or placed in such close proximity that it can be used as easily and quickly as if carried on the body. This provision of the law should not be interpreted however, to modify the previously recited law on carrying concealed weapons in North Carolina. Additionally, this law does not apply if the minor obtained the weapon as a result of an unlawful entry by an individual.
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    Locked up in a container of some sort would appear to meet the letter of most safe-storage laws.

    I hard-mounted a simple steel box safe with a simplex lock in a closet... compact, and out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40SCiinNC View Post
    Just be aware that this document you linked to is not current. They should have an updated version soon but for the time being, verify any other info found there.
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    I threw out the kids and they now earn and live on their own. Now I only lock them when we leave the house (theft deterrent), or on the extreme rare occasion that we have non-adult visitors (and if they are not family - I secure most anyways, except for what is physically on me).

    When the kids were around, we absolutely practiced both training and education (both Sons are excellent at safety and use) as well as locked storage. That is prudent and wise!

    Some day, when your kids are older and out of the house, you will realize more freedom in the house (other than not having to always put a bath robe on = bad visual, I know).

    Agree with the others who have posted above that it appears your approach will meet the test with the state laws you are subjected to.

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    My "kid" has far more guns than I do--and won't give me the combo to his safe. Guess he doesn't trust me as I enter my second childhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    My "kid" has far more guns than I do--and won't give me the combo to his safe. Guess he doesn't trust me as I enter my second childhood.
    That was funny!

    We have protocals on how the doors are locked, the alarm is used and all of my 'primary' family members have access to the locked stuff, to protect themselves, since I may not be around. What I am finding is my one Son brings his stuff over to secure it, since I am much better positioned and set up to do so.

    That was funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skysoldier29 View Post
    So my wife posed the question about having one of my pistols secured in a safe on our first floor just in case something was to happen and she needed it. Now my question, with laws stating that guns must be secured and not accessible to minor children would having a safe mounted somewhere out of the way and a gun locked it in be within the law? Iím thinking I would be, would just like some opinions.
    A safe is fine. Get yourself a nice little MicroVault or something similar.

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    Any chance your wife could become a 24/7 carry person? That could solve the problem of her getting to a locked gun in time to do her any good in case of a home invasion, and would keep the gun on her body, not laying on a surface accessible to the kiddies.
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    As long as you have it locked down in a quick access safe, you are good to go. Just don't mix unloaded with loaded guns in your safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Locked up in a container of some sort would appear to meet the letter of most safe-storage laws.

    I hard-mounted a simple steel box safe with a simplex lock in a closet... compact, and out of the way.
    On top of what Gasmitty does it couldn't hurt to gun proof your kids with that NRA Eddie Eagle Program.

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    I got a push button HOMAK HS10036683 single serve safe to put on the kitchen counter around the little ones. Works fine. One caveat: Although it allows me to reprogram the code, it keeps reverting back to the factory default. Also it's not entirely stable so you might want to plan on mounting it.

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