NEWS: Home invasion, 3 killed ... with .308 rifle in NYC

NEWS: Home invasion, 3 killed ... with .308 rifle in NYC

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    NEWS: Home invasion, 3 killed ... with .308 rifle in NYC

    Police: Gunman kills 3 members of NYC-based Iranian rock bands, shoots himself


    By Ray Sanchez, CNN
    updated 5:36 PM EST, Mon November 11, 2013

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    Ali Salehezadeh, who handles publicity for the Yellow Dogs, told CNN that a "petty conflict" resulted in a break of communication between the gunman and the band.

    Police said the gunman, armed with a .308-caliber rifle, allegedly went floor-to-floor in the East Williamsburg building, killing three people and injuring another before killing himself.




    Relatively rare situation involving a high-caliber rifle. Guy flipped after being ejected from the band, deciding to take out his former colleagues. I'm sure the anti's will give this one some play. Iranian national doesn't do anything of the kind in his own country, but then comes here and is able to acquire weaponry and do this sort of thing, yadda yadda yadda.
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    Iranian and Rock Band is sumpin I just can't seem to wrap my mind around
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    WTH?

    Only thing I can think of is that maybe he felt slighted by something they may have did to them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Iranian and Rock Band is sumpin I just can't seem to wrap my mind around
    they were hipsters from East Williamsburg, if you still don't understand the irony here then you're just not "deck" enough.

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    hipster irony
    The purposeful irony presented by a hipster upon first glance or through deeper investigation, such as conversation. For example, only a hipster would wear a t-shirt that reads: "I'm NOT a Hipster. Believe me." It is also ironic that what hipsters deem as "cool" (or "deck," in hipster talk) is not really deck, but is approved only by members of that group.
    Examples of hipster irony include iconic spectator glasses frames, a "casual" but "I'm not trying that hard to be casual" look, bedhead hair, and/or the century-old handlebar mustache comeback "look." Another example: Hipsters listen to music that they admit is crappy but that the band never "sold out." This could then be the topic of a very long discussion.

    here are some pictures and a bit more details on the case

    East Williamsburg gunman identified in murder-suicide involving indie rock band - NY Daily News
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    As long as he didn't have more than seven rounds loaded, he complied with state law.
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    Wow a .308, use what you got I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    As long as he didn't have more than seven rounds loaded, he complied with state law.
    Except, you know, the murder part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktice View Post
    Except, you know, the murder part.
    technicalities
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Iranian and Rock Band is sumpin I just can't seem to wrap my mind around
    Lots of hip and cosmopolitan folks in Teheran and a few other larger cities, just as anywhere else in the world. Other than the invasive government intrusion into many aspects of their lives, in some ways there's little to distinguish that city from most others in other countries. Has been that way for awhile.

    But then, they recognized there was limited play there, with all the controls. The outside recognition and opportunities are things they'd not have back there, and the ejected to go find their little slice of heaven. But one of the members got ejected and cranked because of it, thinking he owed them something from being fired. Well, he learned really quickly the only thing different about a violent felon is the manner of the death coming to them when they take things out on innocents. Learned that lesson really well.
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    Hey, those dead band members picked up on something "not right" about the shooter, and booted him. I dont think it was the other way around. Ie that a normal guy went around the bend after getting bad news.

    I bet he was kicked out for more than bad playing.

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    Band member becomes aware fellow band members are actually terrorists planning to set off a dirty bomb housed in a drum in NYC. He quickly becomes ex band member when he disagrees and will not go along with the plan. He in the interest of humanity takes out his fellow band mates to prevent a high victim terror attack then kills himself in remorse for having to kill his friends. There is a song or movie in there somewhere.


    I wrote that??? Ive had to much coffee.



    Nah he was a wacko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    Band member becomes aware fellow band members are actually terrorists planning to set off a dirty bomb housed in a drum in NYC. He quickly becomes ex band member when he disagrees and will not go along with the plan. He in the interest of humanity takes out his fellow band mates to prevent a high victim terror attack then kills himself in remorse for having to kill his friends. There is a song or movie in there somewhere.
    Well, it was a rock band. They hadn't learned to play country, yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormRhydr View Post
    Hey, those dead band members picked up on something "not right" about the shooter, and booted him. I dont think it was the other way around. Ie that a normal guy went around the bend after getting bad news.

    I bet he was kicked out for more than bad playing.
    Very likely.

    I can hear the anti's now ... Gaah, the system failed, he wasn't found out ahead of time, we need more prohibitions, etc. Yeah. In NYC they need more prohibitions against violent felons, as to what's unlawful: murder, assault, conspiracy to commit, unlicensed weaponry, having an unspent or spent cartridge that the "masters" don't approve of, etc.
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    Rock n roll is the devil's music, or something like that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doghandler View Post
    Rock n roll is the devil's music, or something like that anyway.
    Apparently, the guy who went off the rails found no prophet in it.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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