Self defense shooting in Houston...

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    Self defense shooting in Houston...

    Another man carrying a firearm saves his and his wife's lives and property.


    HPD: Armed husband shoots, kills would-be robber | News - Home


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    Why was he going to a bar when he was carrying? May have been fortunate he was, but if he went inside the bar he would be in violation of Texas law. Drinking and guns should not be mixed.
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    Perhaps it wasn't .30-06'd or 51%'d. Regardless, he was prepared.
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    The man and wife his wife were in the parking lot of the club which was across the street. He had not entered the club nor coming out of it so he, at that point, did not break the law. Shooting the BG in the club...different story.

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    Seems like I'm the only one who has carried into a place that serves alcohol and didn't drink alcohol. So leave your gun in the car, its much safer cause you know, alkyhol.

    Good to hear the couple was not harmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnfat View Post
    Why was he going to a bar when he was carrying?
    The robber was probably wondering the same thing as he lay there dying.

    We have bar carry here in Oregon. If my wife and I go out and I am carrying, then I don't drink. Just like being the designated driver.

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    Only he(the shooter) knows if he was going to enter the bar with his firearm, or lock it in the vehicle, but the perp(deceased) opted to make that decision unknown to all for eternity.

    Someone buy the shooter a beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnfat View Post
    Why was he going to a bar when he was carrying? May have been fortunate he was, but if he went inside the bar he would be in violation of Texas law. Drinking and guns should not be mixed.
    The articles are not clear, but there was no mention as to whether the shooter was still inside his car or "in the parking lot". He could have been standing next to his car when this occurred. If he were going to carry the handgun into the bar, he never did, so, it rather a benign issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Perhaps it wasn't .30-06'd or 51%'d. Regardless, he was prepared.

    FWIW, it doesn't matter in Texas...it is a felony to carry a firearm licensed premise licensed to sell alcohol. However, as others have mentioned, he never set foot inside a bar.

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    If it sells alcohol, but isn't 30.06ed or 51%, it is legal to carry inside in Texas.

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    Regardless, there is 1 less BG in my hometown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USM1976 View Post
    FWIW, it doesn't matter in Texas...it is a felony to carry a firearm licensed premise licensed to sell alcohol. However, as others have mentioned, he never set foot inside a bar.
    This is a tad inaccurate. It is a felony for unlicensed possession of a handgun in a place where alcohol is served. So if you go to a restaurant that serves wine or beer, and are found to be unlawfully carrying, the penalty is raised from a misdemeanor to a felony. This doesn't apply to license holders. The typical sign at the door starts with "the unlicensed
    possession of....."

    For license holders there must be a 30.06 sign or a 51 sign. In the past you could still get in trouble if the business
    was a 51 business but they didn't post the sign. I think that has changed. No sign, no charges.

    Also, I don't think it is a question of the business being licensed to sell alcohol, it is serve alcohol-- e.g., you can go into
    the grocery store that sells wine and beer, or the package store that does not sell by the drink.

    51 only applies to places that sell by the drink and derive more than 50% of their income from the sale of alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarf View Post
    If it sells alcohol, but isn't 30.06ed or 51%, it is legal to carry inside in Texas.
    With the notable qualification that the person doing the carrying must be a license holder. We have so very much
    unlicensed car carry, and some folks lose track of the limitation to that and cross over into illegal possession.
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