Legal at home, Felon Across the River

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    Legal at home, Felon Across the River

    Crossed the Ohio River from Kentucky into Illinois with a holstered, loaded handgun semi-visible in the map pocket of the driver's door. Had always previously stopped on the Ky side, unloaded, then stored pistol & ammo in different locations. Today, I was preoccupied with some pressing business details & neglected to perform my standard "entering-Illinois" ritual. Well, it turned-out to be a bad day to forget.

    Guy bumps my sedan with his Ford Superduty in a Convenient Store parking lot, no damage to either vehicle. He gets out and begins telling me that his alignment 2-3.months ago cost him $250. He wants an accident report. Suits me fine, uh, okay. Then he tells me he's a Deputy in the county & starts looking around inside my car asking what I do for a living & why am I in Illinois (35 miles from home). He then spots my revolver grip through the window. The world suddenly CHANGES! He's quickly on his cell asking for local & state LEO representation to the scene immediately. Uhhh, okay. Cruisers roll up & I'm now no longer the guy who got his car bumped. I'm a felon.

    Lots of questions, paperwork & radio time. Apparently, nothing in my background check made things any...worse. Finally, a veteran State Trooper pulled me aside. Explained that this meant, for me, a trip to jail. We chatted about CC, how long I had been licensed in Ky, wasn't I aware the Illinois doesn't recognize or reciprocate ANY other permits. I told the truth, that I did INDEED know my permit meant nothing in Illinois. Yet added that I wasn't illegally carrying concealed in Illinois, as my (admittedly loaded) handgun was stored in my car. After a moment of consideration, the Trooper unloaded my revolver, handed the gun & loose ammo to me and instructed me to store both in different, non-convenient, locked locations.

    I tell this cautionary tale not to plead my 2A Rights or represent myself as a blameless victim. I (think I) screwed-up. Luckily, I was thrown a bone by a reasonable, discretionary LEO. The Lesson? Being lucky is NOT a plan.
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    We play our cards and take our chances. I'm very glad it all worked out for you.
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    You sure got a break! Glad that there was at 1 LEO with some understanding and compassion.
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    My understanding was that you were legal.

    From Handgunlaw.us


    (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her
    vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
    (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
    (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
    (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
    Unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the
    vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
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    He became illegal when he stepped out of the car, leaving the loaded gun unsecured in the car.

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    Glad you were able to remove yourself from a bad situation .
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