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Lockdown!!!

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    Angry Lockdown!!!

    I work on Maxwell AFB, AL and we're currently on lockdown practicing an 'active shooter exercise'.

    So... Here I am, hiding in my little office with the door locked, hoping the simulated bad guy doesn't find me and shoot me. I'm supposed to hide under my desk and basically wait for the slaughter or the cops...

    I'm told we can fight back, if we have to, with various office supplies. I do have a 3" Benchmade clip knife, but I really don't like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

    This infuriates me so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (if this was a real incident) If I had my EDC on me, I could possibly stop the shooter. When will they get it????

    BTW: everytime they do this, the BG always gets a double-digit body count before the cops show up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano3 View Post
    ... we're currently on lockdown practicing an 'active shooter exercise'.

    So... Here I am, hiding in my little office with the door locked ... can fight back, if we have to, with various office supplies. I do have a 3" Benchmade clip knife ...
    Hope and wishful thinking is not a plan.

    I'd prefer a plan.


    So, is the base's "plan" for those found meekly crouching under desks to supposedly fight back against deadly weaponry with office supplies?
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    At least when I served (many moons ago) I was an M.P. We had a armory in our Barracks. I feel for you certainly not a good scenario.
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    That would drive me wild.

    As I type this, I'm sitting in my office, barefoot with a G30 on my hip, and loaded spare magazines in my desk drawer. 'Odd how active shooters don't tend to target redneck privately owned businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Hope and wishful thinking is not a plan.

    I'd prefer a plan.


    So, is the base's "plan" for those found meekly crouching under desks to supposedly fight back against deadly weaponry with office supplies?
    Yup! Hide first, fight as a last resort...

    My only saving grace is that I work in a secure building (classified stuff). IF the main door is secured in time, the chances of an active shooter getting back to where i work is slim. Unfortunately, the lobby folks and visiting researchers are out-of-luck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano3 View Post
    I work on Maxwell AFB, AL and we're currently on lockdown practicing an 'active shooter exercise'.

    So... Here I am, hiding in my little office with the door locked, hoping the simulated bad guy doesn't find me and shoot me. I'm supposed to hide under my desk and basically wait for the slaughter or the cops...

    I'm told we can fight back, if we have to, with various office supplies. I do have a 3" Benchmade clip knife, but I really don't like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

    This infuriates me so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (if this was a real incident) If I had my EDC on me, I could possibly stop the shooter. When will they get it????

    BTW: everytime they do this, the BG always gets a double-digit body count before the cops show up...
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    Wait, you work in an open container yet are posting on the interwebs while locked down in said open container. Unless you have a really relaxed security policy and can just browse the internet on a NIPRNET I'd consider removing this thread. Either that or even worse, you are posting from your phone and carrying a smart phone into a classified environment is forbidden everywhere I've been. I've seen that rule largely ignored by lab personnel and strictly enforced upon contractors but being on the internet for nonofficial reasons while in a classified environment is a recipe for disaster. Be careful.
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    Most organizations out there have absolutely no plan in the event of an active shooter. They have a no-guns policy and the doors require a security badge to get in. (Although most of those doors are glass.) At least where you are people are concerned enough about it to have a drill. It may not seem like much, but they are leaps and bounds ahead of 99% of the work places in America.
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    Frustrating I'm sure. I'm sitting here at my desk with my Glock 19 on my hip. I second the above warning. This could be used against you as you are certainly being "politically incorrect" in today's military environment. Stay hidden till you can stay safe.
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    Good practice in an office is to have a personal, STOUT door-stop handy. (Keys can be duplicated or stolen by the BG). If they can't get to me, they can't shoot me. Are there any company regs about having a 7 iron in your office? Or a fire extinguisher? Maybe wear Raybans so your German Shepherd can sleep under your desk? Very few things can change a felon's mind quicker than a husky, baritone bark!
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    Maybe need some training with one of these staplers.
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    I might try to come up with some type of "booby trap" that I could employ at a moments notice. The ol' "water bucket over the door" comes immediately to mind.LOL

    Seriously, I'll bet you could come up with some type of deterrent or distraction using materials at hand (think MacGyver) that would at least give you a fighting chance if something occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan.w.daugherty View Post
    Wait, you work in an open container yet are posting on the interwebs while locked down in said open container. Unless you have a really relaxed security policy and can just browse the internet on a NIPRNET I'd consider removing this thread. Either that or even worse, you are posting from your phone and carrying a smart phone into a classified environment is forbidden everywhere I've been. I've seen that rule largely ignored by lab personnel and strictly enforced upon contractors but being on the internet for nonofficial reasons while in a classified environment is a recipe for disaster. Be careful.
    We're allowed to use the Internet - no cell phones though. The entire area behind the door is considered an 'open vault'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano3 View Post
    We're allowed to use the Internet - no cell phones though. The entire area behind the door is considered an 'open vault'.
    Nice policy. We were only ever allowed to use the internet for official work research and one of our employees got her access revoked for getting caught browsing the internet waiting on someone else to finish something else up.
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