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    I live in an area that only has County Sheriffs. I can't imagine how long it would take for them to show up at my home after an alarm goes off. I'll stick with my 3 dogs to let me know if something is going on while I am home. And when I'm not home, I'm reasonably sure nobody is going to try to get in!
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    The sensors can be set so that pets would not an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    The only bad thing I have to say about the security systems is that as an LEO, I've dealt with a lot of 'em. Some are better than others, but more often than not, the response time created by the monitoring "service" leaves a lot to be desired.
    I second that comment. One has to know the nearest fire department locations and approx. response times. Is it a manned station or a volunteer FD. Also, are you on a heavily patrolled police precinct with several cruisers. Or, do you live in the outskirts, i.e., one cruiser for a 40 square mile area. The response time could be 30 minutes or more. Do some research before the alarm salesman arrives and you get the 'you should be afraid' speech and that monthly bill.
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    Forget the commercials. All an alarm system does is notify the cops to stand by your burglered home until you arrive to take over. They will rarely arrive in time to intervene.
    An alarm [I]may deter kids who thought they might grab a DVD player and run, but the professional burgler will be in and out with the good in a few minutes. I've unintentionally set my alarm off on a couple of occasions and no call from the friendly voice at the monitoring center.
    An alarm system is better than nothing, may reduce your insurance a few bucks, but don't expect it to be your "electronic guardian."
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    My $.02:) and it will likely not make security system companies happy.

    In my entire LE career I only even responded to one good residential burglary alarm.

    I would save the installation and monitoring fee and do the following-
    Motion detection lights. Lights, lights, lots of lights, did I day lights?
    Part of my job as the breacher for our team was to form our approach plan. The biggest pain in the a$$ was motion detection lights. The farther they are set out to spot from the house the worse it is. Not only is your movement compromised but the light is likely to attract the attention of those in the house and neighbors.

    The next thing is a glass break siren alarm. These are great. Sound does a great job of flipping on the old fight or flight response. Since they have just broken the glass the chance is good that there is nobody to fight, so they flee. This is very common with commercial alarms. If there is more than one intruder it also limits their communication.

    Don't get me wrong, I do like alarm companies for their stickers. Next time you see one of the vans out and about give the guy $20 and get some alarm stickers, better yet, yard signs.

    There were several times that we would do a search warrant on a residence and their alarm would go off. The alarm would go from their phone line, to the monitoring center, to our dispatch, and out to patrol. By the time this happened a 10 man team had made entry to the house, cleared it, had everybody in custody and turned the residence over to detectives.- George

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    I had a security system designed into the home when I had it built!
    Windows, doors, motion, glass (sound), pressure pads (gun room), heat, fire, smoke, CO. Reg phone with cell back-up. Double battery back-up. Zones / methods can be controlled by the panel. When with a local monitoring company based on response time and personal interviews. Also installed "QUALITY DOORS and LOCKING mechanisms along with security film on all glass. All entries have a camera and motion detections plus the outside has motion lights 360 degrees.
    It may not be perfect but it will slow down (cause to think) a determined crook and will deter an opportunist. No scrubs blocking the exterior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankmako View Post
    i don't have one, they are a wast of money. got one at the office and several inside rooms allso have their own system. if we set one off it takes over 5 minutes before the company calls to see what is going on. and then you got the responce time of the police. it takes the police 20 to 40 minutes before they will come out, if they come at all. one of my neighbors has one will a loud alarm. it goes off all the time when they are not home and the police never show up. his dog must sets it off. a bad guy can take a lots of stuff from your house in the time it takes the police to show or the time it takes the company to call to see what is going on.
    The right monitoring service is as important as having an alarm that is properly set up. The best bet is to select a provider that does not contract out the monitoring service to a third party. The more hands that an alert must pass thru before a response is requested from PD is more time that the lowlife thief has to gather up your property or to assault someone in the home caught by surprise. Even worse, no one takes ownership when something goes wrong. The alarm company deflects to the monitoring service, and vise versa. Having accounting, monitoring, and service calls all handled under one roof is the only way to go. Obviously, an alarm system without monitoring has limited usefulness.

    $100 is charged for the first false alarm that Atlanta PD responds to due to a faulty system, and the fine goes up with each successive false hit in the calendar year by about $150 until a ceiling of $750 is reached. Needless to say that most folks keep their systems In tip top shape.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    I know someone who has a rather elaborate security system. There are perimeter detectors, glass break detectors, motion detectors. Allo well and good except you constantly have to be aware of how the thing is set before you open a window, open a door, etc. I think the thing is a nuisance that doesn't offer the level of protection that 2 good dogs would.
    This pretty much describes my setup, but add a wireless transmitter and two bullmastiffs that don't set off the motion detectors, thankfully.
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    We travel a lot in a RV and vowed that when our last dog was gone we would not get another. I have a aftermarket system that calls my cell phone when activated. You then have a number of options to use from the phone including talking to the intruder. I am looking into a six station driveway alarm system and a wireless intercom to complement the existing system.

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    I have a system.... works good and I get to put a sign outside, lol. I have 3 dogs....and 4 birds. If I am there, I am warned. If not, my dogs tend to put the fear of God in people who knock. And I have 2 great retired neighbors who look at anyone who pulls in our little cul de sac....... and they notice just about everything, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bps3040 View Post
    I have a system.... works good and I get to put a sign outside, lol. I have 3 dogs....and 4 birds. If I am there, I am warned. If not, my dogs tend to put the fear of God in people who knock. And I have 2 great retired neighbors who look at anyone who pulls in our little cul de sac....... and they notice just about everything, lol.
    Same here...except for the birds. We have a pistol downstairs, a shotgun upstairs, and I carry in the home as well. Plus I'm going shopping at the FFL distributor show this week. I don't like the response time of an ADT-type company, vs. the response time of my trigger finger. Somehow, I'm willing to bet my security that I'm a little faster there.

    And if we're not home? Well, it's only things. Things can be replaced, and we have adequate insurance.
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    A sign outside from one of the major companies.

    WalMart stick-on alarms on the doors. You can set them to chime or alarm.

    Two noisy dogs; one I know will bite a stranger if provoked.

    Outside motion lights.
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    I have broadwiew and I love them. I would only go with broadview if I were you, the other companies use cheap, crappy wireless systems and broadview hard wires everything. Obviously with wireless you have to worry about batteries and the equipment failing, also if you get broadview it runs on a couple different options which are 1. through your phone line 2. through your internet connection. those are the 2 options they give you I would advise you to NOT use either, ( if bg cuts cable or phone you have no alarm ) so I use an option called "GSM" and it's an extra $5 or $10 a month but it will use cellular to connect so if the bg cuts your phone line or your cable line you will still have an alarm. Also, they use a battery backup so if electric is cut you will still have service so there is NO way for the bg to interupt your service if you go through gsm. Also, when they setup your alarm they will give you "60" seconds once your door is open before it will trip the ararm. I had them reset mine to "10" seconds once the door is opened my keypad is right next to my front door so the 10 seconds is enough time for me to open my door and disable the alarm. Also they have a couple options that we like ( when we are home we use the disable motion detectors ) so the alarm is on and the motion detectors are off so we dont trip our own alarm but the alarm is in instant mode which means if any window or door is tripped it will immedietly call the police there is no wait time, you can also bypass certain sections, so say you have a pool and you want your back door to not be activated but every other door you can activate your alarm accept the door the leads to the pool so while you are out back someone can not come in the front door and rob you while your swimming or doing something in the back yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    I don't like the response time of an ADT-type company, vs. the response time of my trigger finger. Somehow, I'm willing to bet my security that I'm a little faster there.
    But how fast is that trigger finger when it's 15-20 miles away? Faster that the monitoring service then? I'm more worried about the home when I'm away, not when i'm there.
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    I have had ADT for several years. They sent rep's to saturate the neighborhood with an instal. special. A great many houses in our neighborhood, including mine, now wear the ADT stickers and signs. Even have one on my dock. Lately we have had a rash of break-ins. The BG's have been breaking in about 5 minutes after the homeowners leave for work which leaves me to believe that the BG's are watching targeted houses with regularity. Several of the neighbors have reported that the first call they get from the dispatcher notifies them that their house is being robbed. So far, no arrests have been made. I have issues with ADT's response time. Just this morning, my wife went out to get the paper and came rushing in the house just as the alarm started beeping. She had forgotten to disarm it before going out. The alarm beeped for a good 15-20 sec's before she disarmed it. I thought the beeping was a smoke alarm and I dashed into the utility room to check the furnace. No call from ADT. My best bet for security are the hurricane shutters that we have on all the windows and sliding glass doors. I put them all down whenever we go away for more than a day. Hopefully a neighbor will see someone trying to batter their way in through a steel reinforced, vinyl hurricane shutter and call the police. I'm thinking I'll cancel ADT when our contract expires and just keep the signs.

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    I do have an alarm system, mostly for business insurance purposes for my home office. On the times I have tested it, the response center always calls within 3 minutes if not deactivated. If I don't answer, the LEO's arrive in about 15 minutes or so.

    I don't see this as ever being a first line of defense for a professional burglar. They know what the response time is. The loud sirens might scare away kids.

    As for pets, the motion sensors can be adjusted to allow for pet movement within the house, although I've had mice set them off (maybe because they scurry), and I once had a fax machine that would set off the alarm when a fax came in and the paper dropped into the tray.

    If you have the money to spend on the system, it might be worth it for backup piece-of-mind.

    But keep the shotty handy.
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