February 16th, 2010 01:49 AM
Neighbor Lost Car Stereo Saturday Night
So at about 3 in the morning night before last, my wife and I were quickly awakened by a woman screaming somewhere outside. We heard a car speed by a few minutes later, and didn't think anything of it after that.
Earlier today, I was down at my neighbor's house picking up my daughter who was playing with their kids, and found out it was his wife. I walked up and he was putting his stock stereo back into his vehicle to replace the stolen aftermarket one, and where there used to be a lock on his driver's side door there was a hole and a crack in the plastic door handle. Apparently, his wife woke up and caught the thief in their vehicle and screamed at him. The thief quickly finished stealing the stereo, got into his car, and sped off. He told me he was going to go buy a shotgun immediately, which is something I was telling him he should do prior to this incident.
Then they were talking about how they would have liked to shoot the guy's tires out, and I explained that would probably get them arrested instead of the thieves, since the shots might hit our neighbors and simple thievery is not enough to justify such a response, especially outside of their house. They could still use the gun to scare them off though I told them, and probably force them to leave the stereo where they found it. He plans to go to the police station this week to get his long gun permit.
February 16th, 2010 02:05 AM
Didn't realize you were in Hawaii, Peck... you need a permit for a long gun...?
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February 16th, 2010 02:11 AM
In Hawaii you need a police department-issued long gun permit that lasts for one year and allows you to get any long gun you want. There is no assault-weapon ban (except "assault pistols") and no magazine capacity restriction (except 10-rd pistol limit). In order to get it, you go down to the police station, get an FBI fingerprint, fill out 5 forms, then wait 2 weeks and pick up your permit. The permit must be renewed every year, with a two week waiting period for every renewal. Every time you buy a long gun, there is no waiting period and you then have 5 days to take it back to the police station to register it.
Originally Posted by PointnClick
For pistols, you have to take the NRA Basic Pistol Course, then present your certificate to buy the handgun. You take the receipt for the handgun to the police to fill out the same permit paperwork as a long gun, then wait two weeks, go back to the police station to get the permit for that specific pistol, get the pistol, and bring it back to the police station to register it within 2 days. The permit is good for only 10 days.
With all that in mind, that is why he will probably go with the shotgun instead of a pistol.
February 17th, 2010 08:54 AM
Hawaii is a long way from Kansas, but...
"...They could still use the gun to scare them off though I told them, and probably force them to leave the stereo where they found it."
Thanks to a recent Kan. Supreme Court ruling, it is considered felony aggravated assault to simply brandish a weapon. My understanding (I'm a newby but have been doing some research & studying) is the Justices say you cannot use the "self defense" defense if you just show a weapon, meaning, I suppose, they would prefer you just shoot the guy than run him off.
I've also heard from many sources a gun should not be used as a threat anyway: don't pull it out unless you intend to use it.
Last edited by Skippys; February 17th, 2010 at 10:55 AM.
February 17th, 2010 01:52 PM
Wow you guys down there in Hawaii need to remove your government. That sounds terrible.
February 17th, 2010 04:40 PM
Move to TX and sight in the rifle...
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February 17th, 2010 04:46 PM
Probably a bad idea to blast someone over a car stereo but it's a good idea to be armed in case the same idiot wants to enter the domicile and endanger the family.
February 18th, 2010 01:17 AM
You could be right. I strongly encouraged them to research the laws on that kind of thing in this state. He still has to get his long gun permit anyway...
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