Dayton must pay $400,000 to 35 black applicants.
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Without prior experience our ...
April 5th, 2010 11:05 AM
I'm surprised at the low standards
"The test is intended for applicants with a high school education or GED, Civil Service Board Chief Examiner Giselle Johnson said."
Without prior experience our recruits in Jacksonville need a 4 year degree. A couple of surrounding counties require at least a 2 year degree.
April 5th, 2010 11:05 AM
April 5th, 2010 11:22 AM
A lot of times, civil service rules do not allow the exclusion of those without a degree. But that doesn't mean that they are actually in contention for the job.
With that said, I'd be all for hiring the guy with common sense, forget the degree. IMO, the cops with the degree's often tend to be good at writing reports, and that's about it. There are always exceptions. Thats just my observation though.
April 5th, 2010 11:24 AM
Guys, it's been happening for decades. What until those "special" minorities are hired. Then they take a promotional test and fail. A law suit will be filed claiming the test is bias. Then "those special" failures will be promoted ahead of many others with higher placing scores. Believe me, it happens. I witnessed it. They got large amounts of cash and stripes. I saw the their new shiny cars and the stripes sewn on their uniform sleeves. It's all politics and political correctness...no one has the balls to say: STOP! If the department takes federal funds, you play by federal government rules. No exceptions even in law enforcement.
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April 5th, 2010 11:27 AM
Just look at any big city. It doesn't matter if its the PD, FD or street department.
Originally Posted by Blue Jacket
April 5th, 2010 01:19 PM
I spent 26 years as a federal civil service employee before I retired. As a bright relatively young college graduate when I entered into federal civil service (I had served in the army before attending college), I was under the assumption, having drunk the federal propaganda "Kool Aid" that intelligence and hard work was what lead to advancement, i.e., promotions. It did not take too long to learn the truth of the matter. Being a "white, well educated, male" was the lowest category you could be in as far as promotions were concerned. What was much more important was to be a black or an asian female, regardless of intelligence or work habits! The feds will say there are no "quotas", but believe me, that is a big pile of male bovine fecal matter! The feds call it "affirmative action"--which is nothing more than a "politically correct" term for quotas. Mentor and push the minority members up the chain of command to "make up" for all the years they were descriminated against in favor of white males. No one will ever convince me otherwise, as when I finally did achieve a supervisory position late in my career, I found a written memo from several years before that a former supervisor had failed to destroy specifically stating the above policy. I don't care if a person is male, female, white, black, green or purple--the only thing that should count is knowledge, ability to perform, and work ethic--NOTHING ELSE!!
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April 5th, 2010 01:29 PM
I believe it was Philadelphia that recently eliminated the requirement to be able to swim in the FD hiring test.
Because it's not like a firefighter may ever have to stop and jump into a rain-swollen creek or river to rescue someone whose car ran off the road...oh wait!
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April 5th, 2010 06:22 PM
While taking a recent West Carrollton Police Department Citizens Academy class, we learned that it costs the city about $7,000 to investigate, test and hire each and every police officer, before putting them on probation; after which they still may be fired after being hired. Some of said applicants have to pay for and pass law enforcement classes at Sinclair Community College, in Dayton, on their own until they graduate...and then apply and wait and wait and wait.
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