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I watched this on liveleak yesterday and that woman is crazy. She is the kind of person that truly scares me in this world. She opened the door and nobody broke into her home but she keeps screaming they did.
Last edited by HotGuns; April 5th, 2010 at 10:15 PM. Reason: unacceptable language
Who is up, awake, and already running a video camera at 6:30am???
She was filming before the knock ever came on her door.
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Those who say what the Sheriff's Deputies did was OK are not dealing with law. It is NOT OK for Law Enforcement to enter a home except under very specific circumstances and this ain't it.
That said, anybody personally familiar with the Kern County Sheriff's Department know the behavior on the tape is common for them who work in the "known problem areas". They would NEVER do that in a well to do subdivision.
I really like and support upright LEO's (my dad was one and my son was injured in academy or he would be one today). But when it comes to the Kern County Sheriff's Department, I have seen coroner's reports changed, open homicide cases suddenly closed without comment and no case records to be located.
The closest story I could get is the District Attorney ran out of money to prosecute so those deciding such matters determined what crimes they would pursue. Of course they selected crimes where victims were prominent citizens.
It is wise to read anything you sign (like the paperwork to bail someone out) IF you are not comfortable with what you are agreeing to, don't sign.
Simple as that.
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QUOTE]It is wise to read anything you sign (like the paperwork to bail someone out) IF you are not comfortable with what you are agreeing to, don't sign.
Simple as that.[/QUOTE]
I have a friend who lost his home when he put it up for collateral on a bond for his scumbag brother, who promptly absconded.
Skip tracers are Mercs plain and simple. Why expect them to act in any other fashion?
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I agree with you ibesarcasm. Let them try that here in florida and see what happens!
LOL Bandolero you are a funny guy! Some of us on here are LEO's or have prior law enforcement experience....troll
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Ms has the Castle law also and with the recent rise in home invasions I wouldn't think it would be a good ideal to barge into someones house without identifying yourself first.
I know if you kick in my door without letting me know who you are you will get shot no questions asked, that simple. If you don't show me the warrant or tell me you have one you aren't coming in. and if you tell me you have one and you don't well then we'd be sorting that out in court.
The SUPREME COURT ruled in favor of Bail Enforcement Officers. Now, having said that, I would be inclined to agree with you if they barged in and had no warrant and YOU did nothing wrong, but that is NOT the case here...
Bail Enforcement Officers have different "powers". Period.
1) This idiot, BROKE the law once, and then BROKE the law again as a fugitive/bail jumper. We need to cease acting like the police are the problem here. HE is.
2) Look at some of the other vids of this woman, she is BATCHIT crazy, and a pure instigator on many of her vids. She was filming at what time in the morning again, and took how long to open the door?
On a side note, people can quote the "4th Amendment" all day long, and I've seen them do it here, and on Youtube, but they need to be fully aware of ALL the laws on the books, especially the one that points out the powers of the BEO looking for a fugitive....
Stop acting like we're fightin' for "freedom". We are ALREADY....free.
I don't engage in any activity that would get a no know warrant ran on my house.
I don't know anyone nor would I ever sign for anyone to be bailed out...
I have no reason to believe that anyone attempting entry into my home is there do do anything but cause myself or my wife...or the dogs harm.
If you come into my home without permission you will get shot. If it's daytime you might be challanged...but shooting will be on my mind...not baking you cookies.
In the middle of the night, the challage will be the muzzle flash of a AR15 nothing more...nothing less.
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I'm reminded of another post where the police knocked on the door in the middle of the night responding to a bogus 911 call. The resident didn't even have a landline in service. They trusted the 911 service and I'm glad they did.
However, in this case it should not be a surprise if the address given on the drivers license could be false or not current, yet is accepted without further investigation. Maybe if it were the mayor's address there would have been some followup before busting into the house. I'm not against the attempting to arrest the BG, just the heavy handed way they treated the resident.
As for shooting, that's bad advice. From other threads I'm confident the resident would have gone to jail no matter what confusion and illegalities had a police officer been assaulted, and given the force involved, more likely would have been put down on the spot.
The bail enforcement guys can be charged with whatever statutes apply in the event that they force entry (or otherwise violate the law) in error. However, if they kick in a door and find the guy they are looking for, then more than likely there are completely in the clear legally. They do not need (because they cannot obtain) a search warrant.
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