Pirate Suspects To Be Prosecuted in US

Pirate Suspects To Be Prosecuted in US

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    The Associated Press: AP source: Pirate suspects to be prosecuted in US

    AP source: Pirate suspects to be prosecuted in US
    By PETE YOST (AP) – 1 day ago

    WASHINGTON — At least five pirate suspects are being brought to the United States for prosecution, a federal law enforcement official said Tuesday.

    The suspects will arrive in the United States by the end of the week, the official told The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the transfer is still under way.

    U.S. officials had said last week that about 20 suspected pirates held on U.S. ships off the coast of Somalia might soon be headed to the U.S. for prosecution.

    A senior U.S. official said Tuesday that five alleged pirates en route to the U.S. were captured March 31, after the frigate USS Nicholas exchanged fire with a suspected pirate vessel west of the Seychelles, sinking their skiff and confiscating a mother ship.

    It was not clear whether the rest of the suspected pirates in custody will now be released or sent somewhere for prosecution, said the official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because decisions have not been made.

    Of those others in custody, six were captured after they allegedly began shooting at the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland about 380 miles off Djibouti, a small nation facing Yemen across the mouth of the Red Sea.

    As many as 10 other suspected pirates were captured when the destroyer USS McFaul responded to the distress call from a merchant vessel.

    Military officials said there are concerns that if the six suspects who fired on the USS Ashland are not brought to trial, it could send out a message to other pirates that those who attack a U.S. Navy ship can escape without prosecution.

    The government's decision to bring the suspected pirates to the United States comes amid heated debate among U.S. and other international agencies over where piracy suspects should be sent for trial. Earlier this month Kenya began refusing to take piracy suspects, saying the trials were straining its courts.

    Senior officials from several U.S. agencies met last week at the White House to discuss the issue.

    One piracy suspect has already gone to court in New York City in connection with the attack against an American cargo ship early last year.

    Under U.S. policy, if the Navy captures suspects accused of hijacking an American ship, they are brought to the United States for trial. Those accused of attacking another country's ship are supposed to be tried by that country or, until this month, in Kenya.

    The piracy prosecutions are part of a larger U.S. policy debate over how best to deal with the insurgents and criminal activities that contribute to the persistent instability in Somalia, making it a safe haven for al-Qaida-linked terrorists.

    There have been preliminary discussions about setting up a special international court to try piracy suspects, because a number of countries will not take action against suspected pirates who are turned over to them. Officials said, however, that those talks are in the very early stages.
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    "Military officials said there are concerns that if the six suspects who fired on the USS Ashland are not brought to trial, it could send out a message to other pirates that those who attack a U.S. Navy ship can escape without prosecution."

    Prosecuting and sending the pirates to prison is certainly a deterrent. I think a better deterrent would have been sinking their boat and sending them to the bottom.

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    1. They're idiots for attacking a US Navy vessel. And this isn't the first time!
    2. I have no use for these pirates, it sickens me every time I hear of another ship taken. They deserve whatever they get. It's a shame they didn't get to meet Nemo.
    3. Don't mess with the Navy!
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    Well, if pirates are captured by U.S. Military personnel, I have no problem prosecuting them here. At least they will have a trial instead of being released.

    I wouldn't be opposed to an International Piracy Court, if it were to be established in a way that was truly effective and not corrupted by by the political meddling of the sponsoring Countries. (Good luck with that happening, eh?)

    But in the mean time... We catch 'em, we get to prosecute them.
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    Wonder what their defense will be,we was out in the ocean waterskiing with AK47's when a big boat sunked us
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    Once attacked the US Ships should have kept firing until there was nothing left floating that could be recognizable. We need the shooting practice! Now we get to try them, convict them, pay for their support for the next 15-20 years.

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    Whats wrong with the old fashion walk the plank and feed the sharks for caught pirates ? It worked for the last few centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Once attacked the US Ships should have kept firing until there was nothing left floating that could be recognizable. We need the shooting practice! Now we get to try them, convict them, pay for their support for the next 15-20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Once attacked the US Ships should have kept firing until there was nothing left floating that could be recognizable. We need the shooting practice! Now we get to try them, convict them, pay for their support for the next 15-20 years.
    Unfortunately I think once they throw the white flag/surrender we can't keep shooting at them.

    Which means we need to work faster!


    I want to know what the conversation was like that morning when they figured it was a good idea to attack a US Navy ship (or any allied ship for that matter). What's their next plan to attack the Nimitz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastk9dad View Post
    What's their next plan to attack the Nimitz?
    How about a boomer?


    And the US taxpayer will foot the bill for the best attorneys from around the globe.

    A box of 5.56 NATO or 20mm, is alot cheaper, and projects an immediately deterrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Once attacked the US Ships should have kept firing until there was nothing left floating that could be recognizable. We need the shooting practice! Now we get to try them, convict them, pay for their support for the next 15-20 years.
    Would you expect anything more from our leaders???


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    Military Tribunal or Civilian Court? Personally, I'd consider them "Enemy Combatants"

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    Just one more reason they should have been killed, not arrested.

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    I guess I'm a traditionalist. I still thing immediately hanging them is right and proper.
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    Give them a trial, if convicted, place them in handcuffs and leg irons and make them walk the plank!
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