For all of those who served this great country

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    For all of those who served this great country

    What was your job while in the military? I am joining the army this summer and haven't really decided what job I want.


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    Let me start by asking you what you want to do? Do you plan on making the military a career or are you still unsure? If you are not going to make it a career what do you want to do afterwards?

    There are 212 ways to be a Soldier (if I am quoting the commercial correctly) and you should go in having an idea of what you want to get out of the experience. Do you want to be combat arms and spend a lot of time out in the field or do you want a more technical job that keeps you in the office? Do you want to work with/on vehicles or do you want to work with/on computers or weapons?

    I joined the Infantry and I love it, but it is not for some.

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    I want to work for a local or federal law enforcement agency when I get out of the army, some have advised me to get a job requiring a top secret clearance because that will be needed to work in the federal level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpencerB View Post
    I want to work for a local or federal law enforcement agency when I get out of the army, some have advised me to get a job requiring a top secret clearance because that will be needed to work in the federal level.
    Not a bad thought process. A lot of guys, and gals, cannot get on with a LEO agency because they cannot pass the background investigation.

    Make sure your act is clean AND you get it in writing. You don't want to wind up signing up for intel, and then not passing the security investiation, and winding up 11B anyway.

    For most federal LE jobs you need a college degree. Without one, no matter your military service the math may be:

    • mil. service + security clearance + no college degree = no fed LEO job


    All the "smart" guys, when I was in, banged out all the college credits they could. On line education is very popular these days. With deployments, you might need to utilize that route extensively.

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    I ship out to BCT in about two weeks, and then AIT next January or May (I am set for May but want an earlier date) so I'm not officialy a soldier yet. But, I chose 68X (mental health specialist) because I can not get a security clearance yet (needed for 31A or 37A) and I plan on getting my PhD in clinical psych. I was not interested in infantry (well the boss said HECK NO!!! LOL) and I make for a very tall target. With 68X if/when I get deployed there is a chance I will be able to get out of the garrison. Mostly, I get to help heal my wounded brothers but I didn't want to be a medic...

    Well I hope this helps. But do a quick Army MOS search and read up about them. There really are a LOT of jobs in the Army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpencerB View Post
    I want to work for a local or federal law enforcement agency when I get out of the army, some have advised me to get a job requiring a top secret clearance because that will be needed to work in the federal level.
    The answer to that is yes and no. I have a TS/SCI in the Army, but there are very few enlisted jobs that will get you one. If the clearance is what you are after, look at some form of military intelligence. There may be others, but that is the most likely to get you one. However, the no part of my comment, is that any Federal agency you go to after the military will make you get another TS or TS/SCI through them anyway. Or, at least that's how it is for the FBI and CIA (I thought about them myself, before deciding to stay Army.) Having had one in the Army will make getting one through them easier, but only because it will make your clearance investigation a little quicker.
    I would focus more on doing something you enjoy while you are in, as long as you keep your nose clean, and your finances straight, getting a TS for a Federal agency won't be hard (though, with a perfect record mine took 6-7 months).
    If law enforcement is what you want to do after, consider military police as an MOS.
    If you can afford college, I'd also suggest doing that first, along with ROTC, and coming in as a lieutenant instead of as a private. I was fortunate enough to be able to foot my freshmen year, and an ROTC scholarship paid for the last three.
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    I am leaning towards going infantry and maybe after I do infantry for 4 years or whatever i can get a new mos to get the security clearance, do that for a few years then get out and apply with LE agencies

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    I was in the USAF as a Air Police Officer which later turned into a Security Police Officer. When I was discharged I applied for and was accepted as a Delaware State Police Officer (Trooper). They had a height requirement of 6' back in 1969, I was 5"9" tall. I was the smallest Trooper in the State for about four years. The only reason I was accepted was my military service as a military police officer. Things have changed greatly now, since bringing on the females the height restrictions have been completely thrown out.

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    Have you thought about going into another branch or are you stuck on the Army. I worked Special Ops in the USAF and loved every second of it. A majority of the Army guys we worked with over the years all said they joined the wrong service and wished they went Air Force. All the services have a lot to offer but IMO the quality of life in the Army isnt as high as say in the USAF.

    Just some food for thought for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpencerB View Post
    I want to work for a local or federal law enforcement agency when I get out of the army, some have advised me to get a job requiring a top secret clearance because that will be needed to work in the federal level.
    The next big question should then be have you looked at the requirements for the Federal LE agency you want to work for? Like has been already said, for most Federal Agent jobs you need a degree, which is something you might be able to get in the military.

    The reason I say might is because it's up to you! Another thing you need to keep in the back of your mind is that you'll change in the military, you might find something other than law enforcement before you get out.

    Now, as to what did folks do... There is a sticky at the top of this section for Vets to sign in, if you go through that you'll see that folks here have done just about everything! I spent 21 years in the Army, 19 of them in EOD (MOS 55D, now 89D). I had a White House clearance, worked with agencies like the FBI, State Department and Secret Service. What am I doing now? I'm an engineer for NASA building satellites, go figure! (While I was in the Army I got both my BS and an MS, went in as a high school drop out, and I was an "Enlisted Puke".)

    Bottom line, look for an Army job that will interest you and where you can also learn something that will help when you get out. Something out of the ordinary never hurts either! Take your time, look at all the jobs available, and don't believe the recruiter.
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    If i didn't join the army I was thinking about something like the navy mobile security unit or the air force security forces, anyone have any experience or insight on these jobs? what job in the army would be similar to these?

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    Just join the air force and be a PJ!!!

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    All services have both police and investigative services in addition to Intelligence operations. I spent 2 years in the Army and 24 years in the Air Force with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. If I had to do it all over again I would still take the AF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf87 View Post
    Have you thought about going into another branch or are you stuck on the Army. I worked Special Ops in the USAF and loved every second of it. A majority of the Army guys we worked with over the years all said they joined the wrong service and wished they went Air Force. All the services have a lot to offer but IMO the quality of life in the Army isn't as high as say in the USAF.

    Just some food for thought for ya.

    Former Army guy here and I have to agree with this statement. The Air Force "employs" a much higher quality soldier in terms of education and will usually give a soldier better skills that can benefit him after the service.


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    Army Security Agency still exist? Would guarantee a clearance when I was in. You might check them out. I, like another poster, did Armor-Armor recon, 11D, and it didn't work out so well in civilian life.
    I did get a "Q" clearance after the Army.

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