More fox news fear mongering
Violence Prompts Strong Warning At Ariz. Monument
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U.S. Land in Arizona Given to Illegals, U.S. Citizens Told Stay Out - 6.15.2010 Sheriff Pinal County
This is not several years old
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From my post above: " Bream [The FOX commentator] welcomed Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu who furthered the suggestion that the refuge had been recently closed. Babeu said, "It's literally out of control and violence has increased just in the last four months."
Bream didn't mention that the refuge is not in Babeu's jurisdiction.
Bream falsely added, "We're talking about something that's north of Tucson, I mean, 80 miles away from the border." Perhaps she was referring to Pinal County but the refuge is not only along the border, that's where the closure is. A media advisory from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service states,"
Problems can't be solved when their magnitude isn't correctly understood, or when their magnitude is exaggerated. This isn't the first time, and I'm sure it won't be the last when this particular sheriff has gone on tv to talk about things in parts of AZ which are quite far removed from his jurisdiction.
Again, DC member Gilraens tag line says it all, ""Those who believe things without evidence will believe anything."
I've scoured Google news and can find no news reports about this alleged closure that didn't originate from that one Fox report.
Maybe we should be asking US Fish and Wildlife what the story is.
Again, I'm not saying things are rosy. I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm just saying the claim of the US ceding territory to Mexico is ridiculous.
Fear mongering. That one has gotten a lot of play lately, almost as good as "Astroturf".
Propaganda 101 - when met with resistance, cry out "fear monger!".
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Hopyard......I understood the "claim" of US ceding territory to Mexico meaning that we just put up signs saying "hey you need to stay out due to the outlaws in this area that we aren't doing anything about"
of course we haven't officially given any territory back, just in theory since we're not doing anything about it
that is a fact and the area is large
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FOX news made a fictitious story out of this. I have no doubt that the signs are real and the problem is real. We certainly need to get this problem under control. However, FOX made completely false statements including... "Obama gave parts of Arizona to Mexico" is a ridiculous inflammatory statement that is designed to enrage and incite anger in people.
This type of story is pure hype designed by FOX to get viewers to watch their shows. The angry right wing sit salivating like Pavlov's dog for the next tasty pack of lies and FOX knows it. (BTW...Nazis will be marching down your street soon according to Glenn Beck so be sure to tune in.)
I'm shocked how gullible people are. (This includes the left wing.) The far right takes anything FOX says and then, without any question, swallow it hook line and sinker. They run with it and spread the message as if it were gospel. Hate mongering at its best. I don't believe this is a good thing for our country.
I don't know about the rest of you but when someone tells me outright lies I will lose my trust in them. I'll take what they say in the future with much more scrutiny. Again, that goes for both Left and Right news sources However, I find FOX to be the most egregious offender.
Actually when a governor of a state and a county sheriff BEG you for troops to combat an invasion and you sit back and do nothing you technically ceded that territory to criminals, in this case illegal Mexican cartels. How many more citizens and cops need to get shot?
So technically Obama, and Bush before him by ignoring repeated calls for help, ceded that territory.
Please, read more of Fox News lies
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Don't get me wrong, I think we should employ the military to deal with these people but we need to use them to do it because all other parties involved seem to be ill equipped to deal with, NOT because it's a invasion.
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What I'm saying is FOX reported a story that had many false statements that was manufactured to create headlines. They lied. Once again they fire up the viewers to gain ratings. They made the story much more inflammatory.
#1. Biggest lie... Obama is "giving a major strip of the U.S back to Mexico"
#2. Closing the park all along the U.S. border
#3. "Closed the park 3 counties deep. Well into Arizona." "Closed North of Tucson 80 miles deep."
None of these statements are true and did nothing more than cause chaos. Look what happened here. It worked just as they planned.