If you don't like the word what would you use? Expedition, vacation,visit,pilgramige ,quest?
THATS A PROBLEM! and a big one.
Maybe you view fox's story as 'overdone'... you think they made too big of a deal of it... but fictitious? I call bs.
They tell the news. any place that gives news is going to make a big deal of every bit of news, thats kinda their job. and honestly i think they have a right to make a big deal of this one.
Ok. you say that fox said "Obama gave parts of Arizona to Mexico". Could you please provide me that reference? I dont like to take anything out of context.
Looking at that one statement alone, yea, that may be a little much for a news station to say, but i dont completely disagree. No, Obama did not directly sign some paper giving mexico part of AZ... duh. But due to the lack of federal help with the immigration problem, AZ is having a hard time keeping control of their land, and that is what is meant by that statement. It could have been worded better, but the facts are still there. This is not some false made up story. If you would like I'll have a friend of mine drive down and take a picture of the sign for you.
In the video she also says there is a "MASSIVE STRIP OF THE SOUTHWEST" being given away.
Give me a break. If this isn't hype I don't know what is.
My take is you haven't visited or been to Arizona so you have no clue what you are talking about. The smuggling lanes out here where the danger is are larger than some US states. You WILL get shot at out here if you run into a drug smuggling op. Count on it.
it is being given away because the Sheriff does not have the manpower and the logistics to patrol it, so it is free to roam at will.
Where are the feds? Giving it away. guarding Iraq's borders and not our own
Yep you have no clue. Seriously.
There is a park nearby where I live. It has signs that it is closed from 10:00 PM to 5 AM. That doesn't mean the city is ceding the park to
druggies and vagrants. The opposite. It means ordinary folks keep out, police go in and clear it.
I'm sure the same is going on in this US Forrest Service controlled area. People are asked to stay out, but officials-- Border Patrol, Guardsmen, State Troopers, and Sheriffs, do go in. Hardly ceding anything.
I don't doubt that that particular area is too dangerous and that something must be done. But putting up some signs warning people of the danger isn't the same as "ceding territory" to Mexico, as was purported in the initial stories.
If the news story simply stated the truth, that there is an area where it is now too dangerous for ordinary folks to go, I wouldn't have jumped into this discussion.
Arizona State law already allows for a unorganized State militia , separate from the State National Guard, which the Governor could Call To Order.
Arizona Revised Statutes §26-124 Service by members of unorganized militia; volunteers during emergency; enrollment; selection; organizing selectees
A. When the governor proclaims an emergency, and, upon advice of the adjutant general, determines that the national guard does not have sufficient troops to meet the emergency, the governor may authorize the adjutant general to accept for service from the unorganized militia a specified number of volunteers.
B. If the governor deems an emergency of a nature that all or a large portion of the unorganized militia should be called into service of the state, he shall by proclamation order all members of the unorganized militia to enroll with the county recorder of the county in which they reside. The enrollment shall be in triplicate stating the full name, residence, age, occupation and previous service of each person enrolled. The rolls shall be verified by the enrolling officer who shall retain one copy and file one copy with the adjutant general and one with the clerk of the superior court of the county in which the person is enrolled. The persons called into service shall be determined by lot in accordance with a plan devised by the governor and implemented by him. The plan shall be patterned upon the latest selective service act of the United States and executive orders of the president issued to implement the law.
C. Upon mobilization for state purposes members of the unorganized militia shall be organized under the command of the officer the governor designates into units comparable to units of the national guard.
Arizona Revised Statutes §26-122 Components of militia
Arizona Revised Statutes §26-121 Composition of militia; persons exemptQuote:
A. The militia is divided into the national guard of Arizona, the state guard when organized, and the unorganized militia.
B. The national guard consists of commissioned officers, warrant officers, enlisted personnel, organizations, staffs, corps and departments of the federally recognized and regularly commissioned, warranted and enlisted militia of the state, organized and maintained pursuant to law, and all members thereof honorably retired by age or disability.
C. The numerical strength, composition, distribution, organization, arms, uniforms, equipment, training and discipline of the federally recognized national guard shall be prescribed by the governor in conformity with the allocation of units to the state by the department of the army and the department of the air force of the United States.
D. The inactive national guard consists of commissioned, warranted and enlisted personnel relieved from assignment to the national guard by the adjutant general, or at their own request, under regulations prescribed by the department of national defense of the United States, and not reassigned to another component of the armed forces of the United States.
E. The unorganized militia consists of members of the militia not members of the national guard or state guard when organized.
The militia of the state of Arizona consists of all able bodied citizens of the state between the ages of eighteen and forty-five years and all residents of the state between such ages who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, except:
1. Persons exempted by the laws of the state or the United States.
2. Idiots, lunatics, totally blind persons and persons convicted of infamous crimes.
3. Judges and clerks of courts of record.
4. State and county civil officers holding office by election, and members of the legislature.
5. Ministers of the gospel.
In addition, a county Sheriff could form a Posse.
Arizona Revised Statutes §26-123 Maintenance of private troops prohibited; violation; classification
A. No person, partnership or corporation shall maintain troops under arms, but this section shall not be deemed to prohibit a business, plant or firm from maintaining armed guards for protection of their property from damage or loss, or formation of a state police or highway patrol, or the existence of county and municipal police forces and sheriff's posses.
B. Any person violating this section is guilty of a class 5 felony.
I suggest this action in an E-mail to Governor Brewer. Contact the Governor
Those pin-head back East do not realize who they are F-ing with. It may not be the old west but it is still The West.
There needs to be a rallying point like the Gladstone Flag or Gonzales Banner.
thats a huge difference than what you are saying in your posts/summary of what Fox is saying, I didn't see/hear fox say the things your claiming
Fox is reporting the same thing that other news sites are reporting, I've seen the same story stated online at other sources
the BLM is under what government....federal....who directs the directors of BLM....the pres/administration....and they aren't doing anything about the signs or the problem
this combined with the inaction of not just Obama but of Bush, Clinton, Bush, and yes...even Reagan we have come to this point,
the signs are telling the people "hey don't go in this area", it is by this action and lack of our citizens getting to freely use our land that makes it "in effect" giving it to the enemy for their free use, maybe this should be stated and emphasized in the reporting of the situation
yes this is an invasion...invasion of drug criminals, murderous drug cartels AND those that think this land is still Mexico's and they don't care about our laws/sovereignty
if one was to do the same coming into Mexico they would be treated as an invader...this is what happens to the people coming in from central America right now, I've seen how they were treated by Mexico as invaders
Just because because they are parachuting in from Soviet transports doesn't mean they aren't invading
Mexican Drug Cartels now control parts of ArizonaQuote:
CASA GRANDE, AZ - Two men shot earlier this week could be the result of the ongoing battle between Mexican drug cartels now spilling over deep into Arizona, officials say.
Pinal County investigators say an area known as the smuggling corridor now stretches from Mexico's border to metro Phoenix.
The area , once an area for family hiking and off road vehicles has government signs warning residents of the drug and human smugglers.
Night vision cameras have photographed military armed cartel members delivering drugs to vehicles along Highway 8.
"We are three counties deep. How is it that you see pictures like these, not American with semi and fully automatic rifles. How is that okay?" asked Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu.
Babeu said he no longer has control over parts of his county.
"We are outgunned, we are out manned and we don't have the resources here locally to fight this," he said at a Friday news conference.
Five weeks ago Deputy Louie Puroll was ambushed and shot as he tracked six drug smugglers.
blah, i cant view that at work. i will have to watch it when i get home, but from what i read a certainly dont think the reporter said anything which meant to be interpreted as obama singing over land to the mexican government, only that some people blame the portion of AZ being run by mexican drug smugglers on Obama’s lack of action.
I will have to watch it when I get home to give a more helpful response to what you have indicated.