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    We have to wait until they lay siege to Wash. D.C. itself. When they want to take over the White House we might see the "CHANGE" that was promised before the election!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Mexican Cartel gangs have invaded US soil and our government does nothing? WTH is wrong with administration?


    FOXNews.com - Mexican Gangs Maintain Permanent Lookout Bases in Hills of Arizona
    Try looking at our Commander In Chief!
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    What Commander in Chief, he doesn't want McCrystal telling the American people the truth about what's going on in Afhanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    What Commander in Chief, he doesn't want McCrystal telling the American people the truth about what's going on in Afhanistan.
    Yeah and apparently just encouraged McCrystal to "resign" ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    What Commander in Chief, he doesn't want McCrystal telling the American people the truth about what's going on in Afhanistan.
    My point exactly!
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    Another bunch of ...if it is know that "Mexican Cartel gangs have invaded US soil and our government does nothing," I have a question.

    Where's sheriff Joe? Hiding? Aren't the local State Police and the local Sheriff's
    the folks responsible for local gang control?

    Ernie asked, " WTH is wrong with administration?" Nothing.
    Or do you guys want DEA at BATF running the whole show?

    Last I heard the control of gang activity is mostly a state responsibility. The control of illegal migration is a Federal responsibility.

    SO, let those wonderful
    LEOs who know about the local gang activity round the dudes up and turn them over for deportation after their sentence is fulfilled.

    Let Border Patrol patrol the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    We have to wait until they lay siege to Wash. D.C. itself. When they want to take over the White House we might see the "CHANGE" that was promised before the election!
    They can have Washington - nothing there I want anyway. I want Arizona back!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Another bunch of ...if it is know that "Mexican Cartel gangs have invaded US soil and our government does nothing," I have a question.

    Where's sheriff Joe? Hiding? Aren't the local State Police and the local Sheriff's
    the folks responsible for local gang control?

    Ernie asked, " WTH is wrong with administration?" Nothing.
    Or do you guys want DEA at BATF running the whole show?

    Last I heard the control of gang activity is mostly a state responsibility. The control of illegal migration is a Federal responsibility.

    SO, let those wonderful
    LEOs who know about the local gang activity round the dudes up and turn them over for deportation after their sentence is fulfilled.

    Let Border Patrol patrol the border.
    Hopyard - If the Border Patrol was effective in its mission, there would be no cross-border gang activity to clean up. Not sure how foriegn invaders that happen to be part of cartel gangs qualify as "local gang activity". Anyway, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution deals with who should repel invasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Another bunch of ...if it is know that "Mexican Cartel gangs have invaded US soil and our government does nothing," I have a question.

    Where's sheriff Joe? Hiding? Aren't the local State Police and the local Sheriff's
    the folks responsible for local gang control?

    Ernie asked, " WTH is wrong with administration?" Nothing.
    Or do you guys want DEA at BATF running the whole show?

    Last I heard the control of gang activity is mostly a state responsibility. The control of illegal migration is a Federal responsibility.

    SO, let those wonderful
    LEOs who know about the local gang activity round the dudes up and turn them over for deportation after their sentence is fulfilled.

    Let Border Patrol patrol the border.
    Sheriff Joe is not in either county, he is in Maricopa county which is two counties away from where this is happening, and he is doing his job..... and the liberals complain that he is profiling ;)

    the local Sheriff has had men shot and has requested Federal support because he is out manned and outgunned.... and it has fallen on deaf ears.

    You are reaching now as far as responsibility goes, and you are way off.

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    If you are interested in what the state is doing you can read up on it here:

    Press Releases : Public Relations / Media - Arizona Department of Public Safety

    Again they too have requested federal assistance because THE BORDER JOB IS NOT BEING DONE! They are overwhelmed. if the border was closed, a lot of these problems would be non existent.

    So before you run your mouth like Arizona is doing nothing, maybe you should do some research.

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    The Sheriff DOING HIS JOB and being outgunned and outmanned:

    YouTube - CRIMINAL ILLEGALS AMBUSH AZ DEPUTY ... hmm Sheriff Joe and the National guard assisted. Where are they huh?

    Arizona officials asking the feds to DO THEIR JOB

    YouTube - Illegal Crossing Per Day 3,000 in Pinal Co. AZ 52610.mov

    WE NEED ACTIVE DUTY TROOPS. THIS IS AN INVASION. THEY ARE AMBUSHING LE.

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    Sounds to me like the folks who usually don't want the Fed involved in anything are now complaining because they themselves don't want to do their job.

    You got gangs? You know who the gangsters are? You got evidence? Pick em up and bury them in a cell somewhere. That's what happens everywhere else. Don't whine the Uncle isn't doing anything. Gangsters don't get a pass because they happen to be illegal; and people don't need to be illegal to be gangsters.

    The OP's premise was that there are known entrenched gangsters and Uncle should do something. How about the local and state police and prosecutors pick the known guys up instead of whining. Andd stop begging for help from the very government everyone (here it seems) wants to beat up on.

    I can just hear the complaints now if there was a vigorous DEA/BATF crackdown.
    'Specially if some good old local fellas got swept.

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    So what you are saying is that it is OK for the feds to NOT do their job, causing the state and counties to be overwhelmed by the result of the feds not doing their job and that they should do their job and stop whining yet the feds can sue the state because they are passing laws to enable them to do what the feds won't do, laws which you find offensive enough to say that you wont visit Arizona because of.

    Thanks for clearing up your liberal stance for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    WE NEED ACTIVE DUTY TROOPS. THIS IS AN INVASION. THEY ARE AMBUSHING LE.
    Maybe so. But that is a different issue from dealing with known "entrenched" gangs.

    All I'm saying is that if there are known gangs and known gangsters, do what every community throughout the US does; pick 'em up and charge them. Don't look to Uncle for LE on state issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Maybe so. But that is a different issue from dealing with known "entrenched" gangs.

    All I'm saying is that if there are known gangs and known gangsters, do what every community throughout the US does; pick 'em up and charge them. Don't look to Uncle for LE on state issues.
    You claim to live in Texas, yet you think it is easy logistically for a county sheriff to travel miles into the desert where there are no roads, locate these guys, arrest them without gun battles taking place when these guys are armed with .50 caliber rifles, ak's, body armor, and other heavy weaponry, and have no respect for the police.. and lie in AMBUSH for them, then charge them and it will fix the problem?

    How about the feds close the border so these guys cannot get into the state to begin with.... Oh wait that is just a responsibility outlined in the US Constitution that they cant seem to handle.

    The states should stop whining and deal with it right?

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