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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Very scary stuff. If they planned a series of small attacks in malls, restaurants, or subways it would probably make people more fearful than the event on 911. It would have very serious effects on our already fragile economy as well as financial markets.
    I completely agree.

    I saw a terrorism expert on Fox a few weeks ago that said something very similar.

    "REAL" American terrorist (not Tea party people), know that a large profile target is a hard task. But, any "terrprist" who wants to make a statement can go throughout any city, town or neighborhood in America and pick any number of soft targets . He really encouraged people to step up their awareness this "holiday" season.


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    They are not stupid.
    Sig35seven I think is close but I don't expect any boom.

    These people know how to become invisible when they need to.
    How closely do we look at the people wiping down the tables in the food court? Do they really work for the mall? How do you know? What is in that spray bottle?
    What about the guys mopping the floors? How big an area could one paint with a persistent biological agent? How many people could be exposed in a day or two or three?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    There is no "exposed threat". Your sitting there in the mall eating your lunch and suddenly..Ka-boom. You would never see it coming.

    The problem is when they walk into these public places they look perfectly normal and walk right past the police. Little does anyone know that they have a bomb strapped to their chest. Or, they will sneak in a bomb when no one is around. They do this with the most innocent looking people.

    If your thinking is more guns and more security as the solution they are are thinking way ahead of that. They are cowards but they are not stupid either.
    I was thinking more along the lines of shooters like Maj. Nidal Hassan (even though that wasn't in a civilian area). He should have had a couple shots at most before being dropped by other armed personnel, but noone was allowed to carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    We should have killed them all and made Iraq and Afghanistan the 51st and 52nd states of America , and warned any country that harms one hair on the head of an American citizen, that their country would be the 53rd state and so on. Their is only one way to win a war and that is thru savage total annilation of the enemy. This would make Goverments of these low life countries have more initiative to police their own countries.
    We used to have an organization that knew how to win wars called the War Dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmilchman View Post
    The War Department of the past is now The slap them on the wrist department. We (USA) use to be feared, today we are laughed at by many.
    ...and this is so true. It is a shame we have a bunch of pansies running this country. Not like it used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunGeezer View Post
    i don't believe Al Qaeda are cowards at all. They have merely managed to find a way to successfully fight a superior power. They are resourceful in that they are able to carry out any attacks at all. We bad mouth them, call them cowards and challenge them to come out and fight like men. Why, so we can use our vastly superior weapons and mow them down in the blink of an eye? They wear no uniforms to make them stand out. They use innocent women and children as shields. They store weapons and ammo in Mosques and schools. They use suicide bombers. Hardly the tactics of whacko, opportunistic cowards. While I question their motives and reasons for bringing this war to us, I also think we need to take a few pages from their play books and retaliate with the same viciousness they bring to the table, only more so. Our politicians view our responses as proportional, humanitarian and surgical, but our brave soldiers who fall are just as dead. I say, our response should be the immediate and complete destruction of the country from which the attacks are tendered. We can do it without having one soldier set foot on the ground or be put in harms way. I would bet that after a few large, sandy parking lots are created, the rag heads in control of their countries that remain will reign in their insurgents and religious fanatics. In the words of Admiral "bull" Halsey, After we're done with them, the only pace Arabic will be spoke will be in hell!" And yes, I believe all eligible Americans should be encouraged to go about armed if they choose to. We are at war, a declared war, yet our leaders go about their daily lives like it's one big soap opera. An armed militia is our Constitutional mandate even for those anti's who try to twist the words to meet their anti-gun agenda's. Meanwhile there is a steady drain on our economy and our lives. Our whole corrupt, immoral, cowardly Government needs to be impeached. Where's Harry Truman when we need him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunGeezer View Post
    i don't believe Al Qaeda are cowards at all. They have merely managed to find a way to successfully fight a superior power. They are resourceful in that they are able to carry out any attacks at all. We bad mouth them, call them cowards and challenge them to come out and fight like men. Why, so we can use our vastly superior weapons and mow them down in the blink of an eye? They wear no uniforms to make them stand out.
    Sound like any Revolutions (not the capital "R") anyone can recall? Perhaps in the late 18th century?

    While I don't agree with their motivations, and while many things they do are very cowardly and condemnable (i.e. any actions taken against, or without regard for, non-combatants), there are others that I can respect. Specifically, the defense of their homeland.

    Who among us can say that we would not take up arms against an invading force?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunGeezer View Post
    i don't believe Al Qaeda are cowards at all. They have merely managed to find a way to successfully fight a superior power. They are resourceful in that they are able to carry out any attacks at all. We bad mouth them, call them cowards and challenge them to come out and fight like men. Why, so we can use our vastly superior weapons and mow them down in the blink of an eye? They wear no uniforms to make them stand out. They use innocent women and children as shields. They store weapons and ammo in Mosques and schools. They use suicide bombers. Hardly the tactics of whacko, opportunistic cowards. While I question their motives and reasons for bringing this war to us, I also think we need to take a few pages from their play books and retaliate with the same viciousness they bring to the table, only more so. Our politicians view our responses as proportional, humanitarian and surgical, but our brave soldiers who fall are just as dead. I say, our response should be the immediate and complete destruction of the country from which the attacks are tendered. We can do it without having one soldier set foot on the ground or be put in harms way. I would bet that after a few large, sandy parking lots are created, the rag heads in control of their countries that remain will reign in their insurgents and religious fanatics. In the words of Admiral "bull" Halsey, After we're done with them, the only pace Arabic will be spoke will be in hell!" And yes, I believe all eligible Americans should be encouraged to go about armed if they choose to. We are at war, a declared war, yet our leaders go about their daily lives like it's one big soap opera. An armed militia is our Constitutional mandate even for those anti's who try to twist the words to meet their anti-gun agenda's. Meanwhile there is a steady drain on our economy and our lives. Our whole corrupt, immoral, cowardly Government needs to be impeached. Where's Harry Truman when we need him?
    The Al Qaeda are a small group of religious radicals. To suggest we go in with nuclear weapons with an "immediate and complete destruction of the country" is absolute crazy talk. Then, following the path of your logic, which country would you blow up? The hijackers of 9/11 were Saudi's so I guess we should blow up Saudi Arabia? Maybe blow up the entire middle east? I'm sure other countries wouldn't be alarmed if we did this.

    Exterminating the vast majority of innocent people is not a solution to the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    The Al Qaeda are a small group of religious radicals. To suggest we go in with nuclear weapons with an "immediate and complete destruction of the country" is absolute crazy talk. Then, following the path of your logic, which country would you blow up? The hijackers of 9/11 were Saudi's so I guess we should blow up Saudi Arabia? Maybe blow up the entire middle east? I'm sure other countries wouldn't be alarmed if we did this.

    Exterminating the vast majority of innocent people is not a solution to the problem.
    In terms of justification it would be like the British nuking the Holy See if some guy tried to Fawkes them. Please forgive my pun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Very scary stuff. If they planned a series of small attacks in malls, restaurants, or subways it would probably make people more fearful than the event on 911. It would have very serious effects on our already fragile economy as well as financial markets.
    An attack on a school would send ripples across the nation...like the attack in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Very scary stuff. If they planned a series of small attacks in malls, restaurants, or subways it would probably make people more fearful than the event on 911. It would have very serious effects on our already fragile economy as well as financial markets.
    And somehow the guns would be blamed and more restrictions would be put in place.

    We need to arm our adult public and train our youth because if the SHTF our Military will be very busy and we'll need to pitch in and help protect our homes and nation.
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    Only gullible fools and idiots fear al Qaeda.

    They are no threat to us whatsoever. The real danger to us is... well, the other day China announced that their high-speed rail train is running at around 280 mph, and they expect to have around 10,000 miles of track online by 2012. Today, they announced that they have achieved a supercomputer 40% faster than anything we have.

    Here in America, we have Teabaggers and the horrible republican hordes promising to kill the department of education, the department of energy, and healthcare reform, and finance reform, and then after that to shut down government after lowering taxes on the super-wealthy and de-regulating industry.

    So. Our prospects are America as an uneducated third-world country while the rest of the developed nations run circles around us. It ain't a pretty picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shockwave View Post
    Only gullible fools and idiots fear al Qaeda.

    They are no threat to us whatsoever. The real danger to us is... well, the other day China announced that their high-speed rail train is running at around 280 mph, and they expect to have around 10,000 miles of track online by 2012. Today, they announced that they have achieved a supercomputer 40% faster than anything we have.

    Here in America, we have Teabaggers and the horrible republican hordes promising to kill the department of education, the department of energy, and healthcare reform, and finance reform, and then after that to shut down government after lowering taxes on the super-wealthy and de-regulating industry.

    So. Our prospects are America as an uneducated third-world country while the rest of the developed nations run circles around us. It ain't a pretty picture.
    Yeah, and everyone thinks I am nuts for how much I keep up on my Chinese contacts. Who knows might work in china in the future, sounds kind of fun, even if not there is definitely going to be more business over there. However personally I think we should embrace this as an opportunity (Chinas rising economic power). Not the middle paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockwave View Post
    Only gullible fools and idiots fear al Qaeda.

    They are no threat to us whatsoever. The real danger to us is... well, the other day China announced that their high-speed rail train is running at around 280 mph, and they expect to have around 10,000 miles of track online by 2012. Today, they announced that they have achieved a supercomputer 40% faster than anything we have.

    Here in America, we have Teabaggers and the horrible republican hordes promising to kill the department of education, the department of energy, and healthcare reform, and finance reform, and then after that to shut down government after lowering taxes on the super-wealthy and de-regulating industry.

    So. Our prospects are America as an uneducated third-world country while the rest of the developed nations run circles around us. It ain't a pretty picture.
    So you would rather we just become a socialist slave state instead?
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