This is a discussion on Plot to Slaughter Hundreds of Families w/ Children at Portland Christmas Event Friday within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by chenemf Maybe not Baptist or Presbyterian but both articles I read had comments blaming Catholics. One theme blamed the Crusades which were ...
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Even as late as 1683 Europe was seriously threatened by a Muslim invasion. Vienna came very close to falling to a massive Ottoman Army that had invaded Austria, with the intention of driving through the center of Europe, dividing east from the west. Vienna was only saved because Poland was a devote Catholic country, and King John III Sobieski answered an appeal from the Pope to defend Christendom. He led the entire army of Poland, and marched it all the way to Vienna, tipping the balance of power in favor of the Christian forces. The city was very close to falling, as all of the outer defensive walls had been breached, and only one final inner wall was left between the Muslim horde and the city.
The city was under siege by an army of 150,000 for a full two months.
When the Muslims saw the Polish Hussars heavy calvary charging down on them, many of them panicked and ran.
Here is a close-up of a Hussar. They were known for wearing wings into battle.
Here is a diagram of the siege of the city. On the left you can see a representation of the Muslim earthworks created by their engineers, and how they had broke through the outer defenses in the two months of fighting during the siege of the city.
Most people are not even aware of this major Muslim threat to Europe, which only took place a little more than 400 years ago.
These quotes are from two posts but really get to the heart of what I was going to say before I got that far in the thread, except I was going to say AK47S or AR15 and a half dozen magazines. Maybe that would have been significant enough. What was the FBI to do when they heard about all this, just ignore it because he is probably just a disaffected nut job kid? Assign a dozen agents to watch his every move for the next few months or years and see if he required the ACTUAL explosives? Without looking at my penal code to make sure, I think this is above both entrapment and easily into criminal attempt. Plus, I bet there are dozens of these losers that the feds have to watch and determine if they are an actual threat, and this guy was serious enough to "make the cut." Mohammed Atta he ain't, but he wasn't exactly riding around on Saturday night with his friends drinking beer and egging cars. If he had pulled this off, do you think his newfound friends would have put out a press release saying, "Well, yeah, he was ours, but was wasn't really a good Muslim, he was just a disaffected kid. Allah, akhbar, my brother."But for the FBI operation he MIGHT have contacted those who WOULD have happily supplied him with the real stuff.
That...or Mohamud eventually would have gotten frustrated, acquired a Hi-Point 9mm and a .38 Special revolver and gone to a laundromat or shopping strip mall (like a Somali cab driver in Columbus, Ohio was arrested for plotting to do several years ago) and starting slaughtering innocents in the name of Allah.
What Would Gumby Do?
Yes, Christians did pull some wholesale slaughters, but there have also been peaceful take overs. I don't there have been many of those by Moslems.
When given yet another chance to back out of his bombing plot & after being reminded that there would be dead bodies & blown up dead children everywhere...Mohamed Osman Mohamud stated that he saw the footage of Americans jumping to their deaths out of the twin towers and he thought that was AWESOME!