Crime-ridden Camden, N.J., cuts police force nearly in half

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    Crime-ridden Camden, N.J., cuts police force nearly in half

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    The mayor of crime-ridden Camden, New Jersey, has announced layoffs of nearly half of the city's police force and close to a third of its fire department.

    One hundred sixty-eight police officers and 67 firefighters were laid off Tuesday, as officials struggle to close a $26.5 million budget gap through a series of belt-tightening measures, Mayor Dana Redd told reporters. The layoffs take effect immediately.

    Redd said she was unable to secure the $8 million in budget concessions that she says she needed to save the jobs of up to 100 police officers and many of the city's firefighters.

    The mayor -- who said she will continue negotiations with police and fire
    unions -- had been asking the workers to pay more for their health care, freeze or reduce their salaries and take furlough days.

    The apparent impasse has left administrators of a city with the second-highest crime rate in the nation scrambling to figure out solutions to keep residents safe. Camden is second only to St. Louis, Missouri, in annual rankings of cities based on compilations of FBI crime statistics.

    Some clerical officers were demoted and reassigned to the streets, the mayor said, pledging that the cuts would not affect public safety.

    "We're still going to protect our residents," said Robert Corrales, spokesman for Redd. Public safety "will remain our top concern. We'll shift our resources to be more efficient with what we have."

    But police and firefighter union officials say the layoffs will most certainly have an impact.

    "It's absolutely, physically impossible to cover the same amount of ground in the same amount of time with less people," said John Williamson, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union in Camden. "Response times will be slower."

    One local business owner, David Brown, said he does not "understand how you can do more with less."

    "I don't want to be a pessimist, but I can't be optimistic."

    Camden resident and sanitation worker Gloria Valentin said she is now fearful that the city does not have enough police protection to keep people safe.

    "Today is a real sad day in the city of Camden," she said.
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    It's all strategic. Cut the cops and firefighters in order to anger citizens and get them ready to accept tax hikes.

    We can't cut waste in other area's, we have to scare the folks by cutting their police and fire forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It's all strategic. Cut the cops and firefighters in order to anger citizens and get them ready to accept tax hikes.

    We can't cut waste in other area's, we have to scare the folks by cutting their police and fire forces.
    This is pretty much standard. It has a proven success rate.

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    After slashing the Police force, these mayor's go on TV and blame gun violence on Virginias Gun show loopholes.
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    Smart move! What nimrods!
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    There should be no issue, NJ has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, according to Mayor Daley and his cronies in the mayors against guns there should be no violence in Camden as a result of this. The law abiding people are safe due to these wonderful laws as criminals will check their guns at the states borders.

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    this makes me

    their crime rate is through the roof already
    they have strict gun laws yet the gun violence is ridiculous
    last weekend known gang members were seen wearing shirts saying: "1-18-11, we take back the streets"
    their SWAT team is now down from 21 officers to 10
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    The crime rate should now go down... there won't be as many people to take the reports.
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    The citizens of Camden get the gov't they voted for....any complaints should fall on deaf ears.

    If they don't like the way the city/state is run....they have three choices: Fix it themselves, Move, or Live with it....it's these mentally handicapped people who decide to move to my state and try to change it to the way they had it "at home" are what causes problems in freedom loving states...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    The citizens of Camden get the gov't they voted for....any complaints should fall on deaf ears.

    If they don't like the way the city/state is run....they have three choices: Fix it themselves, Move, or Live with it....it's these mentally handicapped people who decide to move to my state and try to change it to the way they had it "at home" are what causes problems in freedom loving states...


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    Very smart move . Dana Redd is either very smart or totally brain death.
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    My prayers go out to the remaining force. They've got to do the job with half the staff. The ones laid off are the lucky ones. They can transfer to a sensible department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It's all strategic. Cut the cops and firefighters in order to anger citizens and get them ready to accept tax hikes.

    We can't cut waste in other area's, we have to scare the folks by cutting their police and fire forces.
    Agreed. You can't tell me they couldn't cut something else?

    Not sure about raising taxes though...I don't think there are too many productive taxpayers left there - which is a big part of their problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Agreed. You can't tell me they couldn't cut something else?

    Not sure about raising taxes though...I don't think there are too many productive taxpayers left there - which is a big part of their problem.
    You do not have to be a productive taxpayer to tax those that are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It's all strategic. Cut the cops and firefighters in order to anger citizens and get them ready to accept tax hikes.

    We can't cut waste in other area's, we have to scare the folks by cutting their police and fire forces.
    That's exactly right. Give me the budget and watch me cut in wasteful areas.
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