NRA to Call for Holder's Resignation Over 'Project Gunrunner' Allegations

NRA to Call for Holder's Resignation Over 'Project Gunrunner' Allegations

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    NRA to Call for Holder's Resignation Over 'Project Gunrunner' Allegations

    By William Lajeunesse

    Published April 29, 2011 |

    Having deflected questions so far regarding how much he knew about a federal project suspected of allowing guns sold in the U.S. to be illegally smuggled to Mexico, Attorney General Eric Holder is under fire again, this time from the National Rifle Association, a conservative group with a loud voice and influence in Washington.
    Sources tell Fox News that NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre will call for Holder's resignation in a Saturday morning speech at the NRA's annual meeting in Pittsburgh.

    LaPierre has criticized Holder's handling of "Project Gunrunner." The program of the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms is intended to stop the flow of guns to criminals in Mexico, but whistleblowers claim the bureau actually encouraged the illegal sale of firearms to known criminals, then allowed those guns to be smuggled to Mexico and tracked.

    The practice of knowingly allowing guns to "walk" -- or be sold to straw buyers and then transferred to criminal organizations -- is against ATF policy. However, at least 15 ATF whistleblowers claim the agency, with the approval of Holder's Department of Justice, encouraged gun stores to make sales to questionable buyers, then failed to interdict the weapons.

    According to Mexican authorities, at least 1,800 of those weapons were successfully smuggled into Mexico, where the cartels used them to commit crimes and foment violence.

    What especially galls and upsets U.S. gun owners is this: While the ATF was allegedly sending guns south, hoping to eventually bust the entire trafficking organization, Obama administration officials, including President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, were partly blaming U.S. gun stores for the violence in Mexico.

    "This war is being waged with guns purchased not here but in the United States. ... More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay in our shared border," President Obama said on a visit to Mexico on April 16, 2009.

    That statement, which Holder expanded on a month later, laid the groundwork for the anger felt by U.S. gun owners. Many of them even accuse the administration of purposely fueling the violence in Mexico to justify tighter controls on the type of guns sold in the U.S. and where they can be sold.

    "When does it stop being law enforcement and start being a criminal enterprise," La Pierre told CBS News. "Innocent people are dying. I mean artificially they set up straw man sales, to prove what? It is all under their watch."

    Attorney General Holder has asked his department's inspector general to investigate the allegations.

    But many say that isn't good enough, fearing the Justice Department will sweep serious allegations under the rug and allow guilty department officials to go unnamed.

    Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., have each initiated congressional investigations that the ATF and DOJ have so far stonewalled. Issa has threatened to hold contempt hearings if subpoenaed documents are not handed over to his House Oversight Committee.

    Holder is expected to appear before Congress this week on related issues.

    In a statement Friday, the Department of Justice told CBS, "We have invited the NRA to join us and other stakeholders from across the spectrum in working to find common-sense solutions to keep guns out of the hands of people who are not legally allowed to possess them. They have yet to come to the table with any productive suggestions, but we hope they will reconsider."

    LaPierre has said: "Why should I or the NRA go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States?"

    The NRA consistently ranks as one of the most powerful lobbying organizations in Washington. It spent $10 million in the 2008 Presidential election.

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    The ATF is suppossed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and incompetents - in the USA. This is not about two or a few guns already seized. This is about bloody narco-terrorists with AR's.
    Three days ago, CBS News reported:
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    Drug cartel suspects on the ground shot at Mexican government helicopters two weeks ago in western Mexico, forcing one chopper to land. Authorities seized more than 70 assault rifles and other weapons from the suspects.
    Among the seized weapons are guns sold to suspects as part of the ATF sting operation, sources say. That information came from traces of serial numbers.
    Democrats like my Senator Feinstein are waiting on the Inspector General's report. The Democrats who say that U.S. gun stores are to blame for the violence in Mexico. The Inspector General who says that US gun laws are too weak for the ATF to do its job. The Obama administration's silence speaks as loudly as the news.

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    Anybody involved in operation gunrunner violated Federal Law and need to be arrested and charged,Just because you have a badge does not exempt you from following the Laws,Any agent claiming "I WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS"should at the very least be fired and or prosecuted,It would be the same as an Agent shooting somebody because he was just following orders,knowing you are breaking the law and breaking it because you were told to IMHO tells me you have no business being in Law Enforcement,and anybody ordering somebody to break a law needs to be vacationing in Club Fed
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    One down ATF acting director may resign over "Fast and Furious" program -

    The buck should not stop there, IMHO. I'd like to see AG Holder sitting before the House committee answering some questions about this debacle.

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