LEO accidentally shoots another LEO when canine lunges

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    LEO accidentally shoots another LEO when canine lunges

    K-9 lunges, deputy shoots fellow cop in neck

    Police Sgt. Al Mellon said Tuesday that Maul was trying to holster his pistol when his police dog lunged toward Elizabeth Riley, throwing him off balance.

    As he tried to regain his balance, Maul accidentally fired and hit Guiducci, who had bent down to handcuff the woman, Mellon said.
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    As he tried to regain his balance, Maul accidentally fired and hit Guiducci, who had bent down to handcuff the woman, Mellon said.

    It's a 'finger on the trigger' thing...not good. Hope all heals and goes well.
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    Hope all turns out ok. You have to follow the rules all of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    As he tried to regain his balance, Maul accidentally fired and hit Guiducci, who had bent down to handcuff the woman, Mellon said.

    It's a 'finger on the trigger' thing...not good. Hope all heals and goes well.
    +1 If his finger had not been on the trigger. An unfortunate incident for both officers.
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    While that is a good possibility, I see nothing in the article that actually states that. I wonder if his finger might have been properly indexed and went to the trigger in a reflexive action while trying to regain his balance?
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    I wonder if this was a sympathetic reflex reaction. Recently there was a thread citing an article basically saying, IIRC, that there are zero incidents of real world sympathetic reflex reactions. Maybe this was it?

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    can you say fired?
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    no I can't, and no reasonable agency would fire over this given the circumstances (cuffing suspect, rocky terrain, K9 lunging)

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    would be interesting to see mock up of how this happened, situations like this are dynamic and with K9 involved it adds a whole other dimension
    the one thing that I would look at from a training standpoint is was there another officer available to have gun drawn for covering the contact officer in order for the K9 officer to use both hands ton control dog and concentrate solely on that? meaning so he could holster sooner than he was trying to
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    You normally won't get fired for an accident, You'll get fired for lying about it. Accidents happen, tell the truth, take the days off and go to vegas. Come back do the retraining and move on.

    And I'm not implying that is what happened here..just stating a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64zebra View Post
    were you fired for your range mishaps/NDs?
    Have never had one. But I sure saw some, and never wanted to be around any of those guys..... when they were handling a gun.
    He should be written up, warned, and on a temporary probation. There is no excuse for not maintaining control of the gun, and doing it appropriately given the circumstances, terrain, situation, dog, etc. IF he's not smart enough to "adjust" and "anticipate" to those factors, take his gun away from him (desk duty)
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    Not enough information to tel if it was an accident or negligent weapon handling. Lets give the officer the benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TapRackBang View Post
    You normally won't get fired for an accident, You'll get fired for lying about it. Accidents happen, tell the truth, take the days off and go to vegas. Come back do the retraining and move on.

    And I'm not implying that is what happened here..just stating a fact.
    yep, tell the truth, if you lie you fry

    I do not agree with the ofc getting any discipline on this if it was as described....a big K9 dog lunging on rocky terrain as he is holstering, pulling him off balance...no telling how he fell, which direction, etc, shouldn't be written up/suspended for a dog pulling you off balance while you are trying to holster
    we may not get any more details on this though
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