SF Police Shooting Video.....

[retsupt99]

This is a 'civilized' society?

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[Old School]

This is a 'civilized' society?

Not there on that day.

[Guantes]

Hey, at least they weren't throwing rocks and bottles.

[Sticks]

The gun is actually at the 1:17 mark in the second video where dipstick points it out gets his face on film and picks the gun up

That looked more like a cell phone.

[Old School]

Hey, at least they weren't throwing rocks and bottles.

A very good point towards being civilized sir.

In regards to the second video watch at just before the 15 second point as the camera is going towards the suspect in the lower right hand corner of the screen.

[SIXTO]

Hey, at least they weren't throwing rocks and bottles.

They probably didnt have any close by.

[CowboyColby]

That was disturbing to watch. I bunch of people standing around yelling disrupting police business in a hectic time does nobody anygood. I'd have a hard time keeping my composure if I was LEO in that situation and not blowing up on some of those idiots. Does anybody know if he was for sure armed or not?

[SIXTO]

That was disturbing to watch. I bunch of people standing around yelling disrupting police business in a hectic time does nobody anygood. I'd have a hard time keeping my composure if I was LEO in that situation and not blowing up on some of those idiots. Does anybody know if he was for sure armed or not?

Yeah, he was armed. The reason he was shot was that he shot at LEO as he was running away.

[buckeye .45]

And here I thought SF was supposed to be the most "enlightened" place on earth.

Maybe if the crowd wasn't a bunch of morons requiring the attention of all the officers, they could of been rendering aid to the BG, to keep him from dying, as opposed to trying to stop a riot.

EDIT: Really, the crowd killed him, not the cops, as he was still alive when the one video starts, and probably could of been stabilized long enough to get to a hospital, had the crowd not been acting the way they were.

[canav844]

This is a 'civilized' society?

Yes, instead of rioting they all pull out their cell phone cameras in hopes of being the next person to go viral, I counted no less than 5 different people jockeying to record the incident, you'd have thought is death was in the coliseum in ancient Rome.

Yeah, he was armed. The reason he was shot was that he shot at LEO as he was running away.

I'm willing to bet there is unreleased footage from the Transit security cameras on the bus/train/trolley of this guy actually shooting at the officers when they came around for the fare check. I hope they charge on the guy that took the gun and off with it.

[SIXTO]

Good point, I hadn't thought about that.

And here I thought SF was supposed to be the most "enlightened" place on earth.

Maybe if the crowd wasn't a bunch of morons requiring the attention of all the officers, they could of been rendering aid to the BG, to keep him from dying, as opposed to trying to stop a riot.

EDIT: Really, the crowd killed him, not the cops, as he was still alive when the one video starts, and probably could of been stabilized long enough to get to a hospital, had the crowd not been acting the way they were.

[buckeye .45]

They had enough officers there immediately that had the crowd been civil, one or two could of broken off to render aid. The suspect is obviously alive in the one video where he is pushing himself up, so it wasn't a CNS or heart shot. In the past few years I learned that often, unless it is a CNS or heart shot, stopping the bleeding can usually stabilize someone enough to get to a higher level of care (I will add I am not a doctor, nor healthcare professional, and there are exceptions). But generally we are trained if you can stop the bleeding, and get them to a trauma center in under an hour, the survival rate is surprisingly high.

Of course, it would of been easier to get a life squad in their too if the people were behaving civilized. But had the crowd been more civil, the cops would of been available to try to stop the bleeding. As it was, the crowd was presenting a threat to the officers that they had to deal with, causing the BG to bleed out on the sidewalk.

[Old School]

UPDATE from 2 hours ago.....

San Francisco Protest Over Police Shooting of Kenneth Harding Turns Violent, 35 People Arrested - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly


http://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Contr...oting-protest/

[Guantes]

Sounds like old times. Load'um up on a Crown bus.

[357and40]

EDIT: Really, the crowd killed him, not the cops, as he was still alive when the one video starts, and probably could of been stabilized long enough to get to a hospital, had the crowd not been acting the way they were.

Get it straight. He killed himself.
He ran from and shot at a police officer. He brought this on himself.

Let's go back even further. He was a thug who was wanted in connection with a previous crime. He who lives by the moronic behavior will die by the moronic behavior.