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    Although I'm not a moderator, I was trying to play 'mediator'. We can all agree to disagree. Remember as Americans, we should respect Freedom of Speech! I really believe we can all do this with respect to each other's beliefs. Pro2alib: I appreciate you responding in such a classy manner. Lima, thanks for chiming in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limatunes View Post
    Now.. with moderator hat off.....

    I am more inclined to agree that short of nuclear war or a massive scale disease or some sort of collapse of utilities we will only see anarchy in isolated areas.

    And, no, I do not trust the good will of people to rise to the occasion. Under pressure and hungry good will has a tendency to dry up and blow away. People can and do become very selfish and very cruel. I might be pleasantly surprised from time to time but in general I believe that a good majority of people would sooner eat their neighbor than do anything to help him when the chips are down.

    That being said I think our nation is FAR too dependent on other countries and on electricity.

    All it would take is a wide-scale blackout lasting more than a couple of weeks to send people into a full-on, devastating panic.

    I think in 1890 or 1910 or something like that, there was a massive solar flair that fried all of the telegraphs in 3/4 of the country. It didn't affect the nation much because not a lot more was run by electricity but the news from NASA is that if a similar sized solar flair hit North America it would shut down power in 3/4 of the country for as much as 4-6 months.

    4-6 months of 3/4 of Americans without power is a very very very scary thing.. especially if we are talking about the winter months.

    A few weeks.. heck, a few DAYS without power anywhere in the US and we get news reports of people going hey-wire.

    4-6 months?!?! There would be anarchy on massive scales.

    Are we, personally, prepared for it? I'd have to be honest and say no. We've talked about it a few times and made noises about purchasing enough food and supplies and water and a heating unit, etc to sustain us for at least a couple of months but we haven't done much more than talk.

    If something like a massive solar flair were to happen tomorrow I would be severely kicking my own butt and start immediately on a long-term backup plan because we'd need it.

    Lima, being from Southeast Louisiana, I can assure you chaos can descend alot quicker than most people think. Frighteningly quick. We need to be our brothers' keeper, and protect our families and neighbours. Being stressed out in anticipation isn't the answer, but to be prepared is wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnum View Post
    For "those who believe" the words of The Book, the answer as to "when" & "how long before it starts" is simple. The Lord Himself made it crystal clear that when Israel became a nation once again (1948) in the End Times, would "begin" the Last Generation. God said a mans years will be "three score & ten" (70 years), therefor a generation is 70 years. Add 70 years to 1948 and you get 2018. Now subtract 7 years of the Tribulation Period, you get 2011. As I've said before, I believe that 2012 will be the "beginning" of the End, or to answer your question, when it "starts". Take note that the Lord said, "TRULY I say to you, THIS GENERATION will not pass away until ALL things take place". Hope this helps.
    Wow!!! This I did not know. Truly interesting...

    If this don't make you atleast think nothing will.
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    I will pretty much echo Lima's thoughts, I think she is pretty much on target. As far as the religious part in this, keep in mind the the Bible's time scale and mans are also two different things. About the only thing one can do no matter their religion, is to drive on. You worrying about rapture isn't going to stop a damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pro2a.lib View Post
    I guess just the interpretation. Or simply the fact that everyone that thinks the world is going to end on a specific time. This especially to the bible people. It seems like every year is going to be the end of days. Cracks me up honestly. Doesn't the bible say (to paraphrase) 'to keep watch because no one knows the day or the hour in which the Son of man returns' ??? Every generation has many different people who have calculated when the end of days is going to be, either "directly from the bible" or by other means. Has it happened yet........ No. Will it ever happen.......... maybe? (Will mortal men know..... according to the bible... no)Should you get worked up about it........ no. Will I continue to laugh at people that think how they think with no real basis other than their misguided religious beliefs..... Yes.
    pro2a.lib, for the record, I wasn't talking about the end of the world, or the Rapture (knowing the day & hour). I simply gave reference as stated by Christ Himself (Mark 13:28-30) as to which generation would be the "Last Generation". It's not my interpretation. These are God's words, not mine. If my belief is misguided, then you 're saying that God, who is the author of my belief, is misguided. That's your prerogative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pro2a.lib View Post
    I guess just the interpretation. Or simply the fact that everyone that thinks the world is going to end on a specific time. This especially to the bible people. It seems like every year is going to be the end of days. Cracks me up honestly. Doesn't the bible say (to paraphrase) 'to keep watch because no one knows the day or the hour in which the Son of man returns' ??? Every generation has many different people who have calculated when the end of days is going to be, either "directly from the bible" or by other means. Has it happened yet........ No. Will it ever happen.......... maybe? (Will mortal men know..... according to the bible... no)Should you get worked up about it........ no. Will I continue to laugh at people that think how they think with no real basis other than their misguided religious beliefs..... Yes.
    WHOAAA!

    I would never give a time or date for THE END. I know better, as I believe most folks do. Your paraphrase is correct. By the way if anyone predicts the world will end on a certain day I know that day will run its full 24hrs with no glitches.

    I simply asked people when this thread was started 3 simple questions.

    WROL

    Do you believe it will happen in the next few years?
    Are you prepared or preparing for it?
    What are some of your preperations?

    I actually think it will very greatly at different lacations around the world I won't predict anything thats not my cup of tea.
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    Keep it on track people.
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    What bothers me about a WROL type event is my grandchildren who are to young to fend for them selves or to defend themselves.

    The small the young the defenseless need care and protection at all times, but even more so in any type of WROL setting be it local short time event or national long term or a world wide event.

    Teaching children to hunt and fish and shoot is of the up-most importance, and shills like cooking, canning, and gardening and just life shills may give them and their families a much better chance to make it through.

    The early pioneer children worked with their parents and by the time they were teens were adults in attitude and behavior ready to face the world and the dangers of it.

    Maybe it is time we got back to the basics and worked to prepare the next generation.
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    What bothers me about a WROL type event is my grandchildren who are to young to fend for them selves or to defend themselves.

    The small the young the defenseless need care and protection at all times, but even more so in any type of WROL setting be it local short time event or national long term or a world wide event.

    Teaching children to hunt and fish and shoot is of the up-most importance, and shills like cooking, canning, and gardening and just life shills may give them and their families a much better chance to make it through.

    The early pioneer children worked with their parents and by the time they were teens were adults in attitude and behavior ready to face the world and the dangers of it.

    Maybe it is time we got back to the basics and worked to prepare the next generation.
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    I love only that which they defend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searcher 45 View Post
    What bothers me about a WROL type event is my grandchildren who are to young to fend for them selves or to defend themselves.

    The small the young the defenseless need care and protection at all times, but even more so in any type of WROL setting be it local short time event or national long term or a world wide event.

    Teaching children to hunt and fish and shoot is of the up-most importance, and shills like cooking, canning, and gardening and just life shills may give them and their families a much better chance to make it through.

    The early pioneer children worked with their parents and by the time they were teens were adults in attitude and behavior ready to face the world and the dangers of it.

    Maybe it is time we got back to the basics and worked to prepare the next generation.
    What's sad is that most of your adults these days do not have these skills.

    There are plenty of very wonderful house wives but their long-term storing and growing of food does not go beyond the deep freezer and a kitchen herb garden.

    I grew up helping and watching my grandmother and mother can and sew and cook and slaughter chickens and cows and dress game that was brought home by uncles and cousins, make jerky, gather eggs, etc, etc, etc. I don't remember everything and if I had to do it all tomorrow it would take a lot of "relearning."

    So many people are so isolated from that type of thing these days even if they DID go out and kill a rabbit they would have no clue how to skin it and clean it and prepare it. If they caught a fish they wouldn't know what to do with it. They'd figure it out eventually but it wouldn't be easy.

    If you gave them a pack of seeds they would have no idea what to do with them either. Give them a jar and a tell them to can something and you might as well be telling them to do trigonometry.

    Now... tell them to do all of those things without electricity or running water and REALLY watch their head spin.

    These are skills that are no longer taught because they are no longer seen as necessities.

    I have a few books on these topics on my shelves even though I grew up doing it. JUST IN CASE, I want to be able to refresh my memory quickly.

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    What's sad is that most of your adults these days do not have these skills.
    One of the very reasons that it times get hard...they are going to be really hard for most people.

    Where I live, hunting and fishing is pretty common as well as camping. That will definately help. On the other hand, those that have and make do, might have to defend themselves from those that have not and can not.

    How many people even know how to make potable water? I'd dare say not many.

    No water for three days will make you dead, thus ending your problems fairly quick.
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    This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. Let the shelves at the local Winn-Dixie empty, combined with an interruption of utilities and it will be mass hysteria. The average "city dweller" has not a clue how to survive. Those of us "country" folk who are able to camp, hunt, fish, garden, and can our own food will have our hands full trying to protect what we have. Two generations ago in this country the people survived the depression by the means we just spoke of, but I'm sure that most "modern" folks have the resolve or guts to last.
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    I think this place needs a religious subforum so we can say what we actually think.. lol.. I amended my previous response in a later post.. And will not "argue" in regards to this topic religiously anymore.. I think it is good to be prepared for anything.. But you can never be prepared for everything..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pro2a.lib View Post
    I think this place needs a religious subforum so we can say what we actually think.. lol.. I amended my previous response in a later post.. And will not "argue" in regards to this topic religiously anymore.. I think it is good to be prepared for anything.. But you can never be prepared for everything..
    Indeed, and it is wise to prepare for the probable, not the improbable or the imaginary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pro2a.lib View Post
    I think it is good to be prepared for anything.. But you can never be prepared for everything..
    Well spoken, we can definitely all agree on that.
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