This is a discussion on Bad cop within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Roon It is for the above reason that I will never understand why people say more than they absolutely need to. Never ...
My point is this. Often the police need no statement from the subject. In fact there may be times when the police may want to run with only their forensic evidence. Sometimes the police may have a non custodial statement from the subject, and not want to give him the chance to change or enhance it. You nailed it when you say the police have to mirandize a subject if they plan to use any statement's in court. Some detectives may use this technique to coax a spontainious utterence.
But for the most part your correct. The Miranda -Escobedo warnings go to more than admissible statements. Also cover a persons right to counsul, right to a speedy trial, as well as right to not be forced to self incriminate. But as long as the police dont violate nany of these rights... The Officer would be OK not advising.
One useful tool..... just say something ... and then silence. It begs the other person to open their mouth and talk, and they do ..... and talk .... and talk....
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** UPDATE** My buddy's lawyer has the video. We have watched it and what my buddy says is true. He was leaning to the left toward the officer reaching for his wallet with his right hand his left hand was on the window seal. @Big Kahuna my buddy is a light skinned afro american and the officer is white. I dont feel like it was a racial issue but who knows what some one is thinking.
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I don't know about your neck of the woods, but around here, most men (not all of them) who carry a wallet in a rear pocket, will carry it in the left rear. Since he was going for the right side, any possibility at all that the officer thought he was going for a gun?
Law enforcement officers aren't perfect by any means. They are human and make mistakes. I've seen them on big city police forces and in towns so small that they lock the police station at 5:00 in the evening. So far, I've never seen anybody get yanked out of a car for no reason at all.
I suppose there's always a first time, but I'd like to know what was going through the officer's mind before I pillory him.
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And you know this how?The sad part is the cop won't even get a reprimand
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