ANOTHER newbie question...kind of long

ANOTHER newbie question...kind of long

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    ANOTHER newbie question...kind of long

    This one is regarding traffic stops. Veteran officers please chime in, here is the scenario:

    I was on my way home from the office this evening and I passed an officer in a small town conducting a traffic stop.

    From what I could see he was alone, on his radio with three (maybe four) cars pulled over. I saw three individuals standing in a group near the officer and two others further off. Iím assuming he was radioing for assistance.

    Here is my question; would any of you stop to see if you could assist?
    A little more info, I do not wear a uniform and take home cars are a no go (no emergency lights in my POV obviously) so until I identified myself and the officer had a chance to see my badge and creds I would just be Joe Public to him.

    Another question, if you were the officer would you appreciate the help from a LEO from another agency?

    I didnít stop today because 1: I have not been to the academy yet and I am not sworn and 2: I didnít know if it was a good idea. As stated above I was assuming a LOT and I would not want to make a possibly bad situation worse. I know traffic stops can go sideways VERY fast.

    Thanks for taking the time to read and respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hk45c View Post
    This one is regarding traffic stops. Veteran officers please chime in, here is the scenario:

    I was on my way home from the office this evening and I passed an officer in a small town conducting a traffic stop.

    From what I could see he was alone, on his radio with three (maybe four) cars pulled over. I saw three individuals standing in a group near the officer and two others further off. I’m assuming he was radioing for assistance.

    Here is my question; would any of you stop to see if you could assist?
    A little more info, I do not wear a uniform and take home cars are a no go (no emergency lights in my POV obviously) so until I identified myself and the officer had a chance to see my badge and creds I would just be Joe Public to him.

    Another question, if you were the officer would you appreciate the help from a LEO from another agency?

    I didn’t stop today because 1: I have not been to the academy yet and I am not sworn and 2: I didn’t know if it was a good idea. As stated above I was assuming a LOT and I would not want to make a possibly bad situation worse. I know traffic stops can go sideways VERY fast.

    Thanks for taking the time to read and respond.
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    Was it possible that this might have been an accident scene? You get this situation a lot when you have an accident involving 3 or more vehicles. If you ever decide to stop and check on an LEO's welfare, make sure you pull in front of him and show your badge before you walk up to him, don't ever pull behind his vehicle and approach him from the rear, especially if he's distracted (on the radio, etc.), unless your in a marked vehicle with emergency lights. Your thought is good to worry about his possible situation, but unless you see him involved in a physical confrontation with more than one person, move carefully.
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    As a non-LEO civilian it would catch my attention as I passed by, and I might look in my rear view mirror, but absent any overt sign of trouble I'd keep driving.
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    All great advice thus far.

    Remember that he/she doesn't know what your intentions are (and you look like a civilian). At best you are another distraction that they have to deal with, which could put them in further danger.

    Unless they appear to be in distress, keep moving.
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    Generally it's my experience that the police are necessarily paranoid. I'd only stop if there was just one cop and he was down and being kicked by 10 others. I'd rather just dial 911 and wait in the distance. I'd hate to be the victim of a BAD police shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sureshot1 View Post
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    I looked this one up for all you MYOB...Mind your own business.
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    It depends entirely what the protocol is for Depts. in your area.

    Where I am located, it is expected that if we see any officer has more than one vehicle to deal with, or even one with several occupants in the car, we will stop and assist.

    Of course, this could be very different where you are employed.

    A call to dispatch will be first, informing of the situation, and if you know the call sign of the officer, or his dept, it'll be something like this...

    "Call sign #, Dispatch, I'll be out with Officer Friendly out at so and so location". This lets everyone in the area know whats going on.

    With that being said, I would not advise stopping to assist an officer until I was graduated from the Academy and SWORN in, because if it does go south, you would more than likely be a liability to the dept, than an asset and you dont want that to happen., Of course, if he is in a fight or his life is in danger, then you gotta do what you gotta do, but until then, do not intervene.

    Another question, if you were the officer would you appreciate the help from a LEO from another agency
    I would and I do, but this is a very local thing. One officer might appreciate it, and another might take offense. It can be a delicate thing. If it is not the way your dept. operates, then dont do it. In big citys depts, they generally dont want anyone other than one of their own assisting, so a lot of that depends on the agency involved and how their jurisdicitions overlap.

    In small towns that only have one or a couple of Officers on shift, we assist each other because it's usually the right thing to do.
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    Thanks for the responses guys!

    Yah, I certainly had no intent to stop and because I was making a bunch of assumptions and in my eyes I'm not a LEO yet. I had to ask because I don't want to be "that guy" but at the same time I don't want to keep driving and then later regret not stopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Is that you in your avatar?
    If you're serious, you may want to look up one of his earlier posts. The source is a hoot!
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