This is a discussion on Iran runs off carrier? within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by WD54241 Well the last time The Iranian Navy tangled with our Navy it ended rather poorly for the Iranians. The Iranians should ...
Problem is that everyone here has assumes that the current administration has the resolve and the guts to reduce Iran to green glass. After the past three years, I'm skeptical. One carrier has the power to take out the entire country of Iran - it doesn't even need the support Task Force. But that single carrier has to be given the "go" by a gutless CINC who would rather kowtow to any foreign nation than to establish US supremecy. Regardless of what the talking heads say it was SEAL Team 6 that eliminated OBL - not "us" or "me." All the braying in the world doesn't change that, and all the posturing in the world does not chastise Iran. Just sayin'
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So the big question in my mind is how many DF-21s have the Chinese sold to Iran? I would venture to say enough to make them cocky. This could prove to be their first operational test.
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As satisfying as it might be to body slam Iran.....do we really want to own and manage another 3rd world country for the next 10 years! I would rather keep some of my tax dollars and all of our troops here.
Remember...it isn't over when the smoke clears. The rest of the world expects us to rebuild the countries we destroy.
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
I agree.............we have given them time to arms themselves and now we bear the brunt of their threats.
IMO..........Isreal will most lilely be the first to take any action against they're Nuc. facilities although if they proceed with a threat against our 5th Fleet..........It's On.
The Iranian Government is itching for a fight, all they need is an "excuse" to start it. The nutcase they have for a leader and their violent religious belief will be what makes it happen. Typically the basic Iranian could care less about what happens outside of their borders. They are more concerned with life in general.
Ahmadinejad is a really loose cannon pardon the pun. He believes that if they start a war, it will usher in some kind of Islamic thing told about years ago. He also wants to attack Israel to destroy it. This guy is the biggest whackjob on the planet. They should have got him when he came to the United Nations in NYC to spout out his hatred for everything in the very country he hates. Honestly, he is worse than the weirdo running North Korea at the moment.
Attacking us first however might not be the best of strategy. He should review the video of Baghdad in '03 when we sent our Military there to say "hello." Iraq had not even made a move and we totally wiped out Hussien's ability to wage war.
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Even the nut cases in Iran have to know that. They will not attack us. It's simple saber rattling. They might however be crazy enough to try to close the Strait of Hormuz which could be the end of them as well.Attacking us first however might not be the best of strategy.
I saw a one page cartoon back in the early nineties where in the top half panel, an Iraqi was riding his camel, waving a sword and shouting, "Holy war!". In the bottom panel, the camel was running the other way with both it's and its rider's eyes wide with terror while they are being chased by a guy in a fighter plane, and shouting holy something else. Unfortunately, Google images is not finding it or I would post a link.
Personally, my opinion is that if this turns to military action that the military be unleashed with full prejudice and as a military force, not a police force. Following the action, I agree with the "rebuild your own country, with your own money and don't do it again." Yes, civilians will die. But they did in WW2, which seems to be about the last time the military was used as a force of war, rather than international law enforcement. The turn the place to glass attitude doesn't bother me one bit.
If they shot a missle at a ship..... history would read : Hiroshima, Nagasaki & Tehran..... are places that nuclear weapons were used by the US after being attacked by another country.
If they shoot nukes @ Israel.... it only takes one sub, 24 missles... each with mutiple warheads, and there would be no Iran. I would take a stance with Iran, we do not plan to put any boots on the ground if you want to start a war and start shooting missles. Having a navy, will be the least of their concerns. And mean it.
Don't start a fight with a stick, when the other guy is aiming a TOW missle. I don't think they would be reluctant to use a nuke, and are sure we wouldn't. I think we need to alter that viewpoint. I have the feeling, it would only take "once".
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I would like to bring something to their attention,a little thing called Embassy Hostages in 1979,There are probably more than a few people that would love to get a little payback.It also shows that a Strong President can give them a different outlook,While Carter was POTUS they thumbed their noses at the USA,First Day Reagan took over they couldn't send them home fast enough
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