4 tens is the best IMO
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One Phoenix police precinct is doing a 6 month study where officers work 3 13 hour 20 minute shifts in a row with 4 days off. Normal Phoenix P.D. shifts are 4 10 hour days. I follow stuff like this closely because when I ETS out of the Army I am going to be applying with Phoenix P.D. So officers on DC what are your shifts and how do you like them?
Phoenix police precinct will test 13-hour days
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4 tens is the best IMO
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Several of the departments in my area have 12 hour shifts.
13 hours is pushing it when it comes to being alert. It also wrecks havoc with family life.
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13 hours in the heat,sweating under a vest,dealing with traffic and other radio calls,It could possibly lead to mental fatigue that may lead to carelessness and end up going really bad
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It's been proven that 12 hours is pressing the limits. After that people tend to make unsound decisions. I'll almost guarantee that the first time an officer is involved in a shooting and he's already worked 13 hours, it will be used in a lawsuit against a city.
Besides the legal aspect. How many LEO who work an 8, or 10 or 12 get off after that many hours? I know when I was in the military, my 8 hour days usually ran more like 10 or 11 hours.
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Spencer you read the comments on your link ?? could be PD chief had managment consult that said no..city manager and union said yes...gonna try it...
If the guys want it, they make it work...nice to have 4 days off....the rub may be rotating nite and days after every 4 day off...much written about disrupted sleep patterns...good luck
12 hours is long enough..and it burned me out after 30 years of it....
Bean counters - 12 hour shifts should be the max.
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12 hour shifts are bad enough, and the way it usually works out with budget cuts, the officer will catch a late call 30 minutes before shift change and get stuck working 2 or 3 more hours of overtime (I know this from experience). So with the commute home and to work, it can be a 16 hour day there and back again in uniform. That leaves darned little time for family, sleep or anything else. Tired officers make bad decisions, and get grumpy, making for poor safety and poor public relations.
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I work 12s and wouldn't want a shorter shift. I've never heard anyone in my dept. complain about 12s, but I've heard plenty of guys complain about 8s, I mean, who wants to work 5 days every week? I work M and T, off W and Th, work F, Sa and Su, next week only work W and Th.
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...13 hour shifts? Wow, just how many doughnuts can a man eat?
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I believe for Police Officers a 12 hour shift is too much. While 12, and 13 hour shifts may work for some departments where most time is spent doing patrol, and maybe answering a few calls for service... Many departments are already understaffed, and the cops are being pushed to the limit. In my department, and in my command we answered about an average of two calls an hour from 4 to 12, and on the midnight tour that has gone a high a 4 or 5 per hour. My personal record was on a midnight tour where my sector answered 24 calls. It's been my experience that while cops are working they are more often under some level of stress... When it's busy we eat unhealthy, and drive too fast. The #1 killer of on duty police is auto accidents. The # 1 killer of off duty, and retired Cops is heart attacks.
The devorce rate among Police is always higher than that among most other professions. Spending more time away from your family getting stressed out that much more at work cant be good for the family. I know... they get a 4 day swing between sets. How much of that time will be spent in bed?.. or on a second job? IMO 13 hr tours are wrong is so many ways I could go on for ever. But I'm sure that I'm boring anyone. I see that a few active, and retired Cops have chimed in on this subject. Funny how we all have similar feelings...
Coming at youu from a different industry here, i work on a boat, and many studies have been done by the Coast Guard, they are always studying something, but we have a 12 hour maximum work day, period. Of course we are on the boat, where we do not travel to and from work every day, and have to worry about eating, ect. We have 3 good meals a day ready, and bed made n reaady to hit at end of shift, which is 6 hours on 6 hours off, but have noticed, many accidents out here happening at the early morning hours, which is end of second shift, and it is a stressfull job. IMO 10 hours a day should be max, and do 3 on 4 off 4 on 3 off .....
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