IMO...............they didn't drink enough water.
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As far as I'm concerned, regardless of whether or not these enemies deserved to have their corpses urinated upon, these Marines have failed to follow orders and good common sense. They have brought disgrace to themselves, to the American military, and dishonor to the Marine Corps. Even if the argument could be made that this was a justifiable action it undermines the values of the American warrior and especially the Marine Corps.
Only my .02 cents. Never served but have close family who are Marines and soldiers.
IMO...............they didn't drink enough water.
I think thats its a hoot that those opposed to whizzing on some corpses can be offended by the act, yet not seem to be affected by the dead corpses laying in the street.
It just goes to show how sick this society of ours has become.
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
The dead bodies in the streets? Where else would they be? That is where they died. I am sure the bodies were soon removed and placed somewhere else. Is this not the norm in most cases?
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I never said it was "ok". I said I don't have a problem with it. More or less an "I don't care, doesn't bother me" outlook. Then again...there are a LOT of things in this world that don't bother me.
Apples and oranges...but my anaology that just popped into my head....
I wake up to see police, fire engines and "amberlamps" (let's see who gets it lol) crowding my street. Find out a neighbor went nutso and brutally murdered his toddler children, wife and then himself....but not before setting the house on fire.
I now know what happened. I assess the immediate danger, or lack of, to my family....and go back to bed. Not a big deal in my book...so won't lose a seconds sleep over it.
Jump to the topic....Marine snipers take out a few bad guys and then urinate on their dead bodies. So what? Read it, acknowledge it and move on. Not a big deal in my book.
It is my humble opinion that there far too many soft skinned, weak willed bleeding hearts currently in this country and our society. That is to include this forum. Most of you wouldn't have the freedom to sit around in your posh homes, with tour posh vehicles playing with your guns if it weren't for the rest of us that have the ability to flip the "off" switch and do the unthinkable things that you comfortably sit and debate about. So long as those four men in that picture come home safely and not in a box...that's all I care about. Whatever they do until then is between them and their maker. So long as they can live with thwir actions, so can I.
Only idiot I see is the pansy that "annonomously" posted the vid. He's the one that should be court martialed for taking the incident out of house.
It's just a golden shower, It's not like they stuffed their mouths with sausage directly hehe.. although posting it was a dumb idea I can't be offended, It's not like the taliban walks around with cameras documenting everything
Why?? Because at the last second, the Police are minutes away.
Basically there are two camps. Folks that think it was wrong (understandable but not excusable)what they did and others that feel it is OK (condones what they did). Those are two generalizations. But unless I missed someones post that articulated this: nobody has brought up the real culprit--the US Government. They are the ones that put these Marines there knowing that atrocities will happen when people are put in combat situations. And the Government will punish them under the UCMJ. Is there not something wrong that?
If a parent gives a 5 year old a loaded pistol, gives him instructions on safety and what to do and what not to do. Leaves the kid a lone and the kid shoots himself or somebody else, then the parent is responsible and punished, not the child. A crude analogy at best I admit. Now compare that to war atrocities. The Government trains the service members on what to do and what not to do. Put them in a situation where the government KNOWS that atrocities will happen because of the stress of war, and they wipe there hands clean and will punish the marines in this case.
I for one are thankful that cell phone cameras were not avaiable during the Viet Nam war. Out of sight out of mind.
For those of you that have posted their feeling and have never "seen the elephant': FYI COMBAT IS FAR MORE STRESSFUL then sitting behind Xbox, in a movie theater watching a on screen battle, or even being in the AO and never leaving the wire.
No you cannot not imagine the stress or the adrenaline dump that can occur when it becomes personal and you are what seems to be, to you, the center of their attention.
To those that went
To those that didn't
To those that came home
and remembering those that didn't
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
Was it an error in judgement? Probably.
Was the video an error in judgement? You bet.
Does anyone know the context? I don't and we probably haven't heard the whole story.
As for inciting others to treat our soldiers worse, I don't think they can be treated much worse as than they are being treated now.