USMC Snipers May Be In Trouble

USMC Snipers May Be In Trouble

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    USMC Snipers May Be In Trouble

    Recently a video hit the internet that seems to show four USMC snipers urinating on bodies of enemy personnel. The USMC will investigate.

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    As well the snipers should be in trouble. That is a clear violation of the orders received when going in country.

    The one on the right is an NCO too.
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    Haj has done worse to people they've killed
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunguy82 View Post
    Haj has done worse to people they've killed
    I completely agree, however, the Marines should of known better than to desecrate enemy war dead.

    Thats like saying we should treat out prisoners the way they treat our troops they capture (we treat ours rather well, they chop our heads off). American forces must maintain the moral high ground, while still being an effective fighting force
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunguy82 View Post
    Haj has done worse to people they've killed
    Don't make it right. I hope you don't talk to your soldiers like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunguy82 View Post
    Haj has done worse to people they've killed
    We should hold ourselves to a higher standard. This post disgusts me.
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    "The barbarities of war are seldom committed by abnormal men. The tragedy of war is that these horrors are committed by normal men in abnormal situations." Major J.F. Thomas, "Breaker Morant"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    "The barbarities of war are seldom committed by abnormal men. The tragedy of war is that these horrors are committed by normal men in abnormal situations." Major J.F. Thomas, "Breaker Morant"
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    I don't understand what some of our younger soldiers are thinking nowadays. These soldiers are also the ones returning home and becoming police officers and taking other positions of service and power. Something has changed in our society.

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    I'd be willing to bet that peeing on the enemy has been done in every single war that has ever been.

    The only difference is now the touchy feelys that never had a mom or a dad choose to have hurt feelings over it.

    The snipers ought to know better. They failed when they got caught. They should have been wearing veils over their faces. They should have taken their unit patches and identifiers off.

    They need some remedial training.
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    Sometimes I think morality is a lost art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that ******* on the enemy has been done in every single war that has ever been.

    The only difference is now the touchy feelys that never had a mom or a dad choose to have hurt feelings over it.

    The snipers ought to know better. They failed when they got caught. They should have been wearing veils over their faces. They should have taken their unit patches and identifiers off.

    They need some remedial training.
    While I personally feel that they should of known better (Every inbound service member is given a ROE/Rules of War card when they get in country, one of them is always to treat enemy dead with respect), I do realize that sometimes stuff happens in the heat of battle, or the emotional overload directly following combat. Regardless, I think they should of known better.

    And the camera guy darn sure should of known better. I know several Marines who got busted for putting dumb pictures and video online, and the cameraguy always got it as bad as the guy doing whatever happened. You don't put stuff like that on youtube, or facebook, or anywhere else.
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    You don't put stuff like that on youtube, or facebook, or anywhere else.
    Yep.

    Sometimes its hard to remember that the whole world can see anything you post...even the weenies in DC that make decisions from a desk.
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    While I do believe what they did was wrong, morals or so called higher standards is not my main worry. My concern is in supplying fuel to those who are recruiting more people to fight us. This might be all it takes to convince another person that all Americans are evil.

    This is a situation that can be used to further unite those fighting against us. Much like the we many of our soldiers rallied when the enemy hung the bodies of killed Americans from bridges and then drug the bodies through the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    While I do believe what they did was wrong, morals or so called higher standards is not my main worry. My concern is in supplying fuel to those who are recruiting more people to fight us. This might be all it takes to convince another person that all Americans are evil.

    This is a situation that can be used to further unite those fighting against us. Much like the we many of our soldiers rallied when the enemy hung the bodies of killed Americans from bridges and then drug the bodies through the streets.

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    That is precisely why we must maintain the higher moral ground. This war, while still somewhat kinetic at times, is largely based in counter-insurgency. How do we convince people we are the good guys, when we do this and put it on the internet? We need as many of the local nationals as possible to see us as the good guys, and videos like this do not help that case.
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