Call the VA crisis line -- get tried for weapons charges that could carry 40 sentence

Call the VA crisis line -- get tried for weapons charges that could carry 40 sentence

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    Call the VA crisis line -- get tried for weapons charges that could carry 40 sentence

    More often than not I disagree with the Roanoke Times editorials. However sometimes they nail it.

    No justice in prosecution - Roanoke.com

    Editorial: No justice in prosecution

    Dismiss the case against a U.S. veteran who only threatened himself.

    A case unfolding in federal court — one that never should have been brought to bear — threatens to rend the fragile safety net that was strung to save this nation's troubled veterans.

    Sean Duvall could have been just another statistic, just one of the estimated 18 veterans dead each day by their own hand.

    Instead, he did what the Department of Veteran Affairs suggests. He called the crisis line set up in 2007 to help suicidal veterans. He was desperate, depressed, homeless and wandering Blacksburg with a suicide note to his family and a home-made gun fashioned from a steel pipe and a shotgun shell.

    He had hurt no one, nor did he intend harm to anyone but himself. By seeking help, Duvall unknowingly invited the full and awesome power of the U.S. attorney's office into his life. And now he is being prosecuted by the very government he once defended, the very government that said it would guide him through his troubles if only he'd call and ask for help.

    Duvall's crime stems from having a crude weapon and for waiting, as instructed, on the edge of Virginia Tech's campus for help to arrive.

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    Considering the AG's prosecution of this guy, I'm reminded of the cartoon: "Your problem is obvious".

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    And some wonder why these troubled GIs don't trust the gov't to help them. Another Federal disgrace. Now all the slowly and laborously built programs to help these poor guys and gals are esentially back to ground zero.
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    Very sad!The Government you once protected with your own life,will take yours for it's own pleasure.I train at least once a month on Fort McClellan base in Al.,a lot of the base has been returned to civilian authority,the rest is just setting there wasting away,there are literally hundreds of barracks that could be given to homeless-in need Vets,but that would'nt turn a profit for our money hungry politicians
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    Very sad. What would we do if all the soldiers just "striked" one day? Or never enlisted at all? We owe these men and women a debt we can never repay, but we sure as hell better start trying!!

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    Once again a dis-service to one who served. We can all help by supporting one of the many returning veteran programs, although in most cases they have to ask for help or at least accept the outstreched hand.
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    The problem is the GOV is like a malicious virus, it does what it is told from the oval office. Don't take this that I am anti, I just don't trust it.

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    Real good guys! Charge and lock up a Vet when he calls for help! I guess the government is too busy selling weapons to the Mexican drug lords!
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    I'm sure there's a little more to the story than this, but it does reek of being close to immoral.
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    I just spent 6 hours at Audie Murphy VA hospital thursday going thru my annual Spinal Cord clinic assessment.One part of the assessment was with a Psychiatrist asking if I had any depression and or suicidal thoughts,I not only said no,but I explained all the friends and support systems that I have in my life.We ended the session with her getting a really good "Rice Pudding recipe" that I make,I was "ambushed"they sent in the dietician next.
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    At a hearing Tuesday, his public defender, Randy Cargill, asked U.S. District Court Judge Samuel Wilson to dismiss the weapons charges that could carry 40years in prison. Wilson did not immediately rule, saying he would do so later in writing. We hope the delay is to allow him to frame a sharply worded rebuke for prosecuting a person seeking help with a mental ailment.

    Cargill calls what the government is doing to Duvall dishonorable, wrong, unfair and shocking to the conscience.
    We can only hope and pray that this Judge is a man of conscience and will dismiss this travesty.

    Whoever made the decision to prosecute this man should be placed among the ranks of the unemployed...immediately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    Very sad!The Government you once protected with your own life,will take yours for it's own pleasure.I train at least once a month on Fort McClellan base in Al.,a lot of the base has been returned to civilian authority,the rest is just setting there wasting away,there are literally hundreds of barracks that could be given to homeless-in need Vets,but that would'nt turn a profit for our money hungry politicians
    You are so right. There is only one problem. It makes sense, and we both know the government never makes any sense...
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    This is too bad. But an illegal weapon is an illegal weapon, no matter what his condition is. Would I be facing the same charges if I was in possession of this weapon and mentally unstable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJD1968 View Post
    This is too bad. But an illegal weapon is an illegal weapon, no matter what his condition is. Would I be facing the same charges if I was in possession of this weapon and mentally unstable?

    +1 As a 100% disabled Vet I am all for Vets rights but a zip gun ( actually if it was a pipe and a shell it would be a 3/4 lead pipe, 3X3 piece of wood with a nail through the center, and a heavy rubber band) is illegal everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJD1968 View Post
    This is too bad. But an illegal weapon is an illegal weapon, no matter what his condition is. Would I be facing the same charges if I was in possession of this weapon and mentally unstable?
    Ok, lets take the word "vet" out. It should apply to anyone seeking help. The man could have got rid of the weapon. Instead he was crying for help. IMO there is a difference between that and if the cops stumbled upon it. Everybody should be treated the same. It just made news becasue he is a vet.
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