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Talk about adding insult to injury...
Detroit officer blasts 'insulting' 14-year term for man who shot him
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That is just terrible. LEOs aren't paid enough to take this kind of abuse.....FROM THE COURTS. Too bad this officer didn't give that bucket of fish guts three lethal wounds. I hope this criminal doesn't make it out of prison alive. I can only hope.
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The penalty for shooting a LEO, Dentist, Taxi driver or anyone else should be the same. After all aren't we all supposed to be equal in the eyes of the law.
Lets set it at death and not have to worry about who is more important or deserving of protection.
But I do agree if one commits a crime (no matter what crime) you get a set penalty and who the crime was committed against carries no more weight.
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Hopefully, Mr. Procter will 'resist' a future arrest, more are certainly coming, and suffer the needed justice at that time.
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Glad I'm not an LEO anymore (retired), and this kind of crap is exactly why both of my kids are strongly steered away from a career in LE. The purpose and calling is noble, but in today's society, it just isn't worth it, IMO.
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This kind of pansy treatment of criminals infuriates me!!
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Oh boy. I better say this first before the stones get thrown at me. The BG should be thrown in jail for life. Period. The judge was an idiot and like the LEO said, the judge was lenient, not the system. OK now. I won't even wade into the whole argument about if you shoot a LEO you should be penalized more than a citizen. Which I disagree with. But, the BG did not shoot him because he was a LEO or because he was acting in an official capacity. Mathews said this:He was not doing his job at the time. He was getting gas. Sounds like he wanted the guy sentenced more because he was a LEO. He did tell the BG he was a LEO but what does that really mean. Anybody can say that. And if anything that did not help."This is the message you send to police officers when we try to do our jobs?" Matthews asked Boykin,
I think there should be a thread just on the incident itself. It is a good example of a situation where the BG has the drop on you and has a gun to ones head. We have discussed it before but here is a real one. What did he do right or wrong?
suntzu I agree with you on most of that
he shouldn't have said to the guy that had a gun to his head "hey I'm a cop", IMO that just invites the guy to want to kill a cop
IMO...if he was going to do anything he should have acted, not talked, to attempt to get the gun away from his head since this guy was so stupid to get that close and pummel his butt into the ground/shoot him....well
as for him not doing his job at the time...yes...at the time the dirtbag first started the encounter he was not doing his job and any enhanced punishment shouldn't be used, I don't see how that it can be, just like if the dirtbag would have come up and hit him in the head it wouldn't be assault on a cop since he wasn't clearly identified as a LEO (your location may vary with how this is done)
different states have different laws, etc but usually when a cop identifies him/herself as a cop and they take action then they are considered being in the course of their sworn duty, however according to what was described in this situation that does not come into play since he acted after the fact based on him shooting the fleeing suspect to prevent him from shooting/committing more crime
it would be different if the dirtbag had been dealt with previously by this cop and the dirtbag knew he was a cop
one bit of hope in this is that the feds follow through on the serial number issue....that will get him a mandatory 10 year sentence in federal prison AFTER he gets released from state prison....and there is no early release for that
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While I agree that the sentence was too lenient, keep in mind that the victim was 'off-duty' [most likely not in uniform] and the fact that he was LEO may not have entered into the decision.
While I think the sentence sucked, I would also point out it shouldn't be any stiffer due to Officer Matthews being shot. He was off duty when he was shot, so we have no idea if Proctor knew he was a LEO. The sentence should be the same regardless.
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The sentence was a joke but do I think a LEO getting shot off duty, on duty, uniformed or not should mean a different penalty than any non LEO? NO because no one persons life is worth more than another no matter what job they chose.