This is a discussion on Army Reserves..question within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by cagueits Maybe the military is not for you, but you could help America in other organizations - i.e Red Cross / CERT ...
Probably a pretty good bet.
If you're not willing to fight for your country, why would you join?
If you're looking for the college money or something, please don't bother. They have enough of mommy's little darlings already that can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact that they're actually in the MILITARY and might have to do what they're told once in a while.
I could understand servicemembers who signed up prior to 9/11 not expecting they would go to war, but after? I ran into all kinds of kids just out of AIT post-9/11 who had no idea they would actually go to IRAQ! Who'da thunkit?
Lastly, the military is completely uninterested in your convienience.
Last edited by tanksoldier; September 8th, 2006 at 02:53 PM.
"I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr.
look at the time lines from Desert Storm to Somoilia to Kosovo to Afghanistan to Iraq....tell me if you would expect to go 4 years with no action?
Pretty sad when the radio guy is more upbeat about being a combat zone than the grunts...
Been there, done that, Do I belive that every one should have to serve.You betcha.
I do believe though, that's one of the things that makes America's fighting force the best - beyond just being better equipped, the fact that it's an all volunteer force means that (in theory) they all want to be there, and like the military life in it's good and bad times. This makes for better morale and performance.
I have always thought that getting rid of the draft was wrong.
We have all volenteers and some don't want to fight. If you were drafted at least you had an excuse for not wanting to be there.
I believe that every citizen over 18 is responible for helping to protect our country and our freedoms. I bet if they started a reserve group of people over 50 there would be a lot of volenteers and none would say they didn't want to fight.
Do not even consider it if you are not willing to give your life to it. Period. That is why it is called a sacrifice.
Going in, even as a reservist, with any lesser thoughts will render you a burden to those beside you and a disgrace to those who have gone before. That is the cold hard truth.
Whatever doesn't kill you postpones the inevitable.
There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11? (Yuri Orlov [Nicolas Cage] Lord of War)
I think you should do at least a year as a Rifleman, then you get the option to get out and you are done, unless all reserves/guard units are commited in combat at the sametime.
For those who vounteer to stay in, once you separate/retire your term honorably, you should: 1) get free medical for life at any hospital; 2) free college education for life at any institution you choose; and 3) no more federal/state/local income taxes ever if you have a CIB/CAR.
Just my 2 cents.
If you want something "convenient" any part of the military is not for you.
"There is no such thing as too much ammo. Unless you're swimming!"
interesting varying opinions..but I understand them all..thanks for the input
Well isn't that the problem. I didn't take the time to sift through three pages of responses, so I'm just going to say that up front. The only other disclaimer I'm going to make is that this isn't going to be pretty.I guess I just want it to be more convenient for me.
If you are not willing to serve your country in a time of war, then the military has no use for you....stay away from it. The military exists for one reason, and one reason only - as the nation's hammer. Reservists who are not willing to deploy or fight when the time comes are nothing but social leaches who seek to exploit the small contract committment and reduced risk of getting activated for the right to consider themselves "military" and so that they can feel as though they have contributed without actually having done so. It makes for good stories at the next frat party or around the water cooler at work, I'm sure.
The military is not a jobs-skills program, nor is it free money for college. Choosing the military is a committment to serve in a time of need...it does not matter what is convenient for you, and we do not care what is convenient for you.
That one sentence that you had the misfortune of typing clearly marks you as a person that I would neither want to depend on nor someone upon whom I would place responsibility for others. Because leadership and responsibility simply are not convenient.
You have answered your own question. If you are looking for something convenient, I suggest you stay where you are, in the job that you love. If a unit cannot depend on you when they need you, then save everyone the time and effort and simply find something else.
Mods, sorry if this is too out of line but this really gets under my skin.
This is incorrect. Please check your facts before offering advice on what the retirement benefits are.Originally Posted by cagueits
OK...I get the point and understand the strong feelings. I just wanted to learn more about the reservist situation.