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Army Chief of Staff Argues to Use Army for Domestic Enforcement - no Posse Comitatus

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    Let's just take it all the way. dress the soldiers in red uniforms, teach them British accents and start shooting colonialists. Full circle and right back where we started in 1775!
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    Hummmm.. any Chief of Staff that suggests that, should soon see retirement or be fired.

    It's illegal for airplanes... to buzz cattle..... I would take it that drones should / would fall into that category.
    Out where we have a farm and knowing some of the people in that area, I imagine the drone would disappear and never be seen again. And some of them , are really good shots.

    No, the military should not become involved in any domestic "law" enforcement or related operations. Period.
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    Seems like a 2 year old. Pushing their limits until they get yelled at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjh2657 View Post
    Let's just take it all the way. dress the soldiers in red uniforms, teach them British accents and start shooting colonialists. Full circle and right back where we started in 1775!
    The first time I seen the movie "The Patriot" starring Mel Gibson his character (Benjamin Martin) made a statement early in the movie. It was the scene where they were having a meeting in support of the revolution. Martin was reluctant to sign on later he did. Yes, it was just a movie however what he said has "haunted" me ever since and seems he was not that far off. Here is what he said in the movie:
    "Would you tell me please, Mr. Howard, why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Disclaimer: I may ping this post once or twice if gets buried in the Thread File.
    That might simply show a lack of interest by forum members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
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    Bad form dude. That should be against forum rules.

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    Anyone get a copy of the complete letter written by the Army Chief of Staff to see if he mentions specifically what he is talking about?

    I don't agree with the Military getting involved in LE operations. We are all just Speculating until we hear exactly what he is proposing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    It may be it that drone crashes into someone's home and kills the occupants.
    Not the current liberal take...the blame is not with the person who shot the drone down. Oh no, the owner of the drone is responsible for failing to keep it under lock and key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Bad form dude. That should be against forum rules.
    I have not and won't here. It's common on other Forums. Just depends on where you are. As for being bad form................... I don't set the rules.
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    So to sum up, it looks like what we have here is a regular contributor to the official publication of the John Birch Society putting words into the General's mouth. The only quotes are fairly ambiguous. The only content dealing with military troops being used for domestic law enforcement activity that might fall under Posse Comitatus is originated by that writer. Perhaps the reason the General's article never mentions P.C. is that the activities he is advocating fall clearly outside P.C.
    For us to know specifically what the General is advocating we would have to pay to read the whole article. The author of the piece in The New American has (presumably) access to the entire article by General O. Yet for some reason he fails to provide any damning quotes of the General.

    Anyone else wonder why?
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    4a: Bell the Government Cat?

    Should the government be allowed to use drone surveillance on its citizens or is this a violation of the fourth amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures? Rand Paul Introduces Bill Requiring Warrant For Domestic Drone Surveillance - Investors.com

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    Of course it's unconstitutional. The government doesn't care. It will take someone with deep pockets and a lot of spare time to undo this debacle.

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    The government doesn't need drones for surveillance. All they need is Facebook, LinkedIn, and all the other sites where people spill all the details of their private lives. Some people post so much stuff about themselves you wonder if they have any secrets left.
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    Just so you know. Message recieved. No pinging. I only put this acknolodgement of NO PINGS here because this tread popped up as Active again. This is a very well run forum and I appreciate all the 'steering corrections' given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady View Post
    Army Chief of Staff Argues to Use Army for Domestic Enforcement - no Posse Comitatus

    This has already happened in our nation's history, it was called the 'Civil War'. The president simply issued orders or directives and very few dared to speak out against it. Sound familiar?
    Learn some history from a source other than the South Carolina school system.
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