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Can't trust anyone in the middle east...
This type thing will continue on as the US pulls out and the money stops flowing.
We have trained and armed thousands of Afghans under the premise of police who in turn go right back to the drug or warlord that sent them to the training in the first place. I just read in Stars and Stripes that up to 80 something Afghan "Police" simply traded sides in one province and are now fighting with the insurgents with all the equipment that we just gave them. I have seen it time and time again.
These guys go from being a cop one day, opium farmer the next to insurgents firing rockets all in the same week. They are loyal to whomever is paying the most money at that particular time.
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. (WETSU)
Brings backs memories, mamasan would clean the barracks during the day then position rockets at night. If she did not show up for work be sure to have your vest and pot the next day.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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Msgt you are correct. Same thing, different faces.
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. (WETSU)
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This doesn't really surprise me... The fact is we aren't on our turf and things like this will continue to happen until we are.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable- JFK
Wow. Agree with above post that this Admin and State Department (heck add the CIA and a couple of other 3 letter Agencies into this mix) have reduced the standards of counter-intel and undermined the already abtrosiously restrictive ROE they are inflicting on Combat Units there. Almost back to the days of Lebanon, when US Soldiers and US Marines were there (oh, about 19 years ago).
Boom! Everyone lay down, you are dead.... ROE made by people who never put anything on but the CPA Uniform.
This is a war, being run by your current government, being run by the Hippies of the 60's. Your Government is being run by very rich 1%er HIPPIES!
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Rules of Engagement? What?
Soldier: uh, command come in
Command: Go ahead Delta342
Soldier: we're taking saf from roughly 50 insurgents requesting permission to fire back
Command: negative Delta342, bad guys may be killed
Soldier: thanks command, make sure you tell my family I love them
It's sad the our fighting men and women have their hands tied behind their backs too.
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I think we should amend the requirements for serving in Congress to include a mimimum of four years active duty service, preferably in a war zone. Our soldier's lives seem cheap and meaningless to many (I would argue most) of our elected officials. Maybe more of them would have a little empathy if they had actually marched in their shoes for a while. It wouldn't eliminate the problem but it might help. Just a thought...
Unfortunately this has been the norm since WWII. Starting with Korea the politicians have let world opinion dictate how we fight a war, not the soldiers in the field.
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Sounds like you are definitely on to something. Best thing would be for a DI to get in there! I'm sure he would clean house quick. I still say all the scum we pay to "live out life behind bars" should be dropped over there and all our troops pulled out. Let the scum we are paying to die in prison actually do one good deed before they die. And the perverts who mess with kids......accidentally get the packs with no parachute.Originally Posted by Caertaker
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God bless our young men and women serving there. It's a shame to lose our blood and treasure over a barbaric feudal/tribal culture ingrained to hate us infidels. War is deception.
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Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
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Agreed!!! Why the heck are we still there? If anything people should be up in arms about it's this so called 'War'. Deception? You got that right and many of these young soldiers are paying with their lives and limbs.
People criticize the Hippies of the 60's but at least they marched on Washington to stop Vietnam. People are passive about this war and do nothing.
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I never trusted any Afghani or Iraqi, despite being spoon fed the "party" line from the army. Quick story. 2009, Mosul, Iraq, I was with Task Force North (no, I'm not a cool guy, but I DID hang out with some!) when a Captain from the 1st Cav division said "There aren't any bad guys around here!" Little did he know we were going out weekly doing snatch and grabs in the area. I'm always surprised at how naive some people can be...especially those that should know better. For political correctness, the current Administration refuses to even acknowledge that there is a threat.
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