Home owner shoots home invader.

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    Home owner shoots home invader.

    https://www.hdaa.com/video-of-the-we...-home-invader/

    The reason I posted this was the last comment in the news report.

    "The home invader was just simply passing through town and decided on a whim to break into this house"

    So much for statistics again.
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    Puts the meaning into 'Random' acts of crime (meaning the Perp was prone to it no matter where), and more importantly, our Right to Defend Ourselves against 'Random' acts of crime!
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    It mentions the homeowner fired three more times as the intruder tried to flee.

    This is a sore subject with me when unscrupulous prosecutors choose to try and gig the defending party for not being instantaneously able to turn off the adrenalin rush in the midst of life or death combat. We all must be careful and have to ability to show restraint once the threat has technically ended and the attacker flees. I say, that is tough to do when moments ago, someone was trying to kill you.

    I'm glad the homeowner and his family were unharmed and I hope the prosecutor leaves it at that, and won't pursue any charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It mentions the homeowner fired three more times as the intruder tried to flee.

    This is a sore subject with me when unscrupulous prosecutors choose to try and gig the defending party for not being instantaneously able to turn off the adrenalin rush in the midst of life or death combat. We all must be careful and have to ability to show restraint once the threat has technically ended and the attacker flees. I say, that is tough to do when moments ago, someone was trying to kill you.

    I'm glad the homeowner and his family were unharmed and I hope the prosecutor leaves it at that, and won't pursue any charges.
    Having to use good judgment in Civilian Life (land of the big PX/Exchange) is different than when drawing Combat Pay.

    Not shooting someone (here in the world) is much better, if the situation will allow. 'Pursute by Fire' ROE do not apply in CONUS!
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    May random acts of violence be met with 'random' acts of vigilance ... every single time.

    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    When the home invader tries hitting him with a crowbar, the home owner feels the lives of his loved ones, and himself are in danger and shoots the intruder.

    What would you have done in the same situation?
    Damn right I would. If I'm able, then the assailant is reaching my family only over his own dead body.

    Can't say I necessarily agree with the multiple shots fired at the fleeing felon, but whether I'd also do the same would wholly depend on proximity and likelihood of continued threat. Of course, the reality is that if a felon's willing to commit deadly violence in one home, it would be sheer lunacy to expect that mere compunction would keep him from doing so elsewhere, again and again until permanently stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It mentions the homeowner fired three more times as the intruder tried to flee.
    If the felon's big toe was the last thing inside the home as he was ejecting out the window or door, then it's easy to assume he's truly "fleeing." I'd have to know more about the specific details to believe in any assumptions prior to that point. But the reality is often much simpler. While a deadly attacker's still inside the home, he's often only a few quick steps away from completing the job. Unless the idiot's face down and compliant, inside the home it can be hard to make a distinction between him being a continuing deadly threat and wishing he were elsewhere. Hence "Castle" protections.
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    I ain't waiting for him to swing a crowbar,he breaks into my house and his first indication I'm armed will be the muzzle flashes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It mentions the homeowner fired three more times as the intruder tried to flee.

    This is a sore subject with me when unscrupulous prosecutors choose to try and gig the defending party for not being instantaneously able to turn off the adrenalin rush in the midst of life or death combat. We all must be careful and have to ability to show restraint once the threat has technically ended and the attacker flees. I say, that is tough to do when moments ago, someone was trying to kill you.

    I'm glad the homeowner and his family were unharmed and I hope the prosecutor leaves it at that, and won't pursue any charges.
    Here is what KY law says about that.

    503.100 Prevention of a suicide or crime.
    (1) The use of physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable when the
    defendant believes that such force is immediately necessary to prevent such other
    person from:
    (a) Committing suicide or inflicting serious physical injury upon himself; or
    (b) Committing a crime involving or threatening serious physical injury to person,
    substantial damage to or loss of property, or any other violent conduct.
    (2) The use of deadly physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable
    under subsection (1)(b) only when the defendant believes that the person whom he
    seeks to prevent from committing a crime is likely to endanger human life.
    (3) The limitations imposed on the justifiable use of force in self-protection by KRS
    503.050 and 503.060, for the protection of others by KRS 503.070, for the
    protection of property by KRS 503.080, and for the effectuation of an arrest or the
    prevention of an escape by KRS 503.090 apply notwithstanding the criminality of
    the conduct against which such force is used.
    Effective: January 1, 1975
    History: Created 1974 Ky. Acts ch. 406, sec. 35, effective January 1, 1975.
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    Good for the home owner. Protect yourself and family. State law will determine if the additional shots were justified. TX and FL it probably wouldn't be a problem. NY or CA felon gets a get out of jail free card, plus monetary award for damage to his vehicle and medical treatment for PTSD.
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    That dirty little word again. Statistics. If you believe you are safe in your lilly white home on top of the great big hill. Just remember someone may want what you have.
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    Love the comment from the elderly neighbor and his wife in the car, "too bad he didn't shoot him with the other three rounds"


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    I remember several years back when I was on patrol as a police officer I responded to a similar call. An elderly man's home was being broken into and he used an old single shot 12 gauge to protect himself. From the moment I arrived he had convinced himself he was going to jail. After getting his story the only negative thing I said to him was that his shot size was a little on the small side and suggested some Remington Reduced Recoil 00 Buck. It took a couple of seconds for it to register to him, but that was the surest way I could show him what he had done was the right thing. Jurisdictions vary on the way they look at these things, but thankfully I worked in one that was more inclined to be on the property owners side than the bad guys.
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    Bad whim ,,,,, to bad there will be two stories told,,,,, should have finished the job
    while BG was in the house,,,,, the extra shots on the OUTSIDE,,,,, may cause the
    home owner some grief,,,,, if his county is LIBERAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Good for the home owner. Protect yourself and family. State law will determine if the additional shots were justified. TX and FL it probably wouldn't be a problem. NY or CA felon gets a get out of jail free card, plus monetary award for damage to his vehicle and medical treatment for PTSD.
    Don't believe it would be a problem in Alabama either.
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    Man, travel clear out of your own town to pick the wrong victim! Could have done that at home.
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