Here it comes... Big Brother slippery slope

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    The government is going way overboard now.
    It's been overboard for a long, long time. Policies such as this should have been shoved overboard decades ago. It's all gonna get shoved overboard at some point, going like this, sure as sunshine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    It's been overboard for a long, long time. Policies such as this should have been shoved overboard decades ago. It's all gonna get shoved overboard at some point, going like this, sure as sunshine.
    Shoved overboard, I have to disagree, Shoved down our throats, That I agree...

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    Scary stuff. Coming to a city near you!
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    I have mixed feelings about the dashboard cams with the license plate recognition running 24/7. On the one hand, your license plate is being scanned and there is a potential for a record to be produced of where you are and at what specific time. But on the other hand, have you seen how many outstanding warrants there are out there? There are a ton of criminals just driving around all the time. If we can scan license plates and compare against an outstanding database of warrants then we could take a lot of criminals off the streets that would otherwise just continue on driving. What about looking for cars with amber alerts out against them? What about deadbeat dads?

    There are of course huge privacy concerns with all this and I don't trust the government to "do the right thing". There would need to be STRONG legal protections and procedures in place with court monitoring similar to how subpoenas and court orders handle wire taps, which of course is also not perfect.

    In summary, I think the potential for abuse and potential for loss of liberty for NON criminals has me more worried than the potential positive outcomes of catching the actual bad guys.

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    Since they're partnered with Microsoft I'm not worried about it. Microsoft writes their software programs with built in issues. Their fixes usually cause additional problems and they scrap the software in a year or two so they can introduce the latest and greatest issue software. In other words it won't work 50% of the time, and when/if it does work, it will cause other issues.
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    Based upon some of the comments in this thread, I am starting to wonder if I am the only one with something to hide?

    This sort of thing also makes me consider the merits of smaller govt, less taxes as a means to de fund some of these police departments and operations. We are certainly seeing a paradigm shift in a bad direction.

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    I hope it's more effective at catching criminals than this fine example from the Bronx... If you can ID this guy from this video... you are superhuman...

    But I'm sure it will catch some otherwise law abiding citizens doing something they shouldn't do.. like drinking a large soda and eating french fries bought on the Black Market in NYC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Since they're partnered with Microsoft I'm not worried about it. Microsoft writes their software programs with built in issues.

    In other words it won't work 50% of the time, and when/if it does work, it will cause other issues.
    Translation: When the Windows are closed, perhaps a door will open ... and let's hope it's a door in people's minds, one that allows them to realize what a terribly slippery slope this all is.
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    "The bad guys have everything that we do too and if you really want to worry about security and freedoms, that’s the first thing,” Bloomberg said. “There’s a lot of evidence that there are a lot of bad guys around the world that are devoting a lot more resources than we are to taking away our freedoms.”

    Oh, well if the bad guys are looking to take away our fredooms, then by all means let's have our government do it first so that we win! Doofus!

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    The thing is, I consider Mayor Dumberg and his thugs to be amongst the bad guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwbackpacker View Post
    I have mixed feelings about the dashboard cams with the license plate recognition running 24/7. On the one hand, your license plate is being scanned and there is a potential for a record to be produced of where you are and at what specific time. But on the other hand, have you seen how many outstanding warrants there are out there? There are a ton of criminals just driving around all the time. If we can scan license plates and compare against an outstanding database of warrants then we could take a lot of criminals off the streets that would otherwise just continue on driving. What about looking for cars with amber alerts out against them? What about deadbeat dads?

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    One problem is that our jails are already overflowing, hence sentences are reduced or commuted altogether. We keep coming up with new laws and 'gotchas' as well as financially crippling ourselves with technology like this, as well as wasting huge time and money protecting the guilty (at the expense of the innocents) until proven guilty beyond any shadow of doubt in the 'justice' system, only to set the criminal free on the backend. This is insane.
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    North Carolina has them all over the interstate highway system. I'm all for it...Get the bad guys....Hey if ur clean no problem..bust those criminals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    "The bad guys have everything that we do too and if you really want to worry about security and freedoms, that’s the first thing,” Bloomberg said. “There’s a lot of evidence that there are a lot of bad guys around the world that are devoting a lot more resources than we are to taking away our freedoms.”

    Oh, well if the bad guys are looking to take away our fredooms, then by all means let's have our government do it first so that we win! Doofus!
    Bloomberg is attempting the scorched earth policy. The criminals can't take what we no longer have.

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