M14 vs. M16
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September 4th, 2012 11:39 PM
I have both. A transferable M14 and M16 gun. Each has it's own place on the battlefield. The M14 is a GREAT long range gun, yet on "rock and roll" it can be all over the place after the 3rd round going downrange. That is if you don't extend the sling and step on it in order to stop muzzle rise. The M16 platform is a lot more controlable, and is effective out to 300 meters (my own opinion here) After that, it's all downhill. I know some will argue this, but remember, it's just my opinion.
I have a DSA FN FAL STG58 type 16.25 inch BBL semi auto gun that shoots incredibly well.
I kinda like the Saco Lowell/ Maramont M60 or the Browning/Marlin 1918A2 BAR for all the right reasons.
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
September 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
With ever 5th round being a Tracer.........Just in case you need to lead em a little bit
Originally Posted by Shiphted
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
September 5th, 2012 12:18 AM
My take..... On the combat side of things, the M4/CAR-15 is much lighter and in an somewhat urban (even CQC/CQB) setting..... think Iraq or Somalia, that platform wins hands down.
Now, lets take it 'out-of-town'....... downrange and outside the wire..... deserts, mountians, etc., That M14 has a BIG advantage in my opinion.
Now on the non-combat/gun-nut/fun/practial HD/SHTF bug-out EOTWAWKI blah, blah, blah...... a little AR-15 seems like just the thing.
Of course, there's NO replacement for displacement, and this lil' gem.........SocomGreen_on_ground615x432-465x316.jpg ....... has captured my attention! A Springer SOCOM (M-14) with a SAGE EBR and/or a Troy Industries aftermarket stock. Even the SA SOCOM with the standard composite/plastic stock is a nice rifle.
EMP, this is a fun thread you started........
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September 5th, 2012 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by atctimmy
I have a 7X57 and it's a really neato round. Whitetail deer go down for the count when shot with the 7X57 and a suitable handload. The 7mm-08 will accomplish the same thing in a short action.
I don't personally care a hoot about having a short-action bolt rifle but the notion is very appealing to many folks. The .270 Winchester, 7X57, and .30-06 and rifle actions for them suit me fine.
The 6.5/.264 diameter family of cartridges looks really intriguing too.
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September 5th, 2012 01:12 AM
Besides the weight of the rifle and ammo limitations of the M-14 on the battlefield it also id far behind more modern weapons in serviceability. The 15 is easily repaired or even re-barreled if need be. Not so with the 14.
September 5th, 2012 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by CLASS3NH
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September 5th, 2012 11:55 AM
Yep. IMO the 94 Mausers were the perfect/best military bolt rifle ever made. The right size, the right weight and a very potent cartridge in the 6.5 X 55.
Originally Posted by bmcgilvray
For some reason I've just always like the 7mm cartridges the best though. I think the perfect round would have been a 7X45mm or a 6.5X45 with a rifle and action built to fit it.
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