This is a discussion on Worries About Building Firearms Collection-Justified or Paranoid within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by 031131 Paranoid yes, justified yes. The anti guns groups are gaining an uncomfortable hold.. i.e CA. Well in CA they are, but ...
"Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean that "they" aren't out to get you...."
Seriously, I do not think that you are paranoid. Personally, I feel that there is too much continental drift to the left to comfortably ignore. Where will it end? I don't know, but I'm not one who is comfortable with just burying my head in the sand and pretending it can't happen. There are too many examples in humanity's past of cultural stagnation & decay to let me feel real comfortable. At the same time, I don't see a conspiracy behind every bush either.
Scott, US Army 1974-2004
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
- Ronald Reagan
I don't think the Feds got the Cahoneys to try a gun grab in Texas.
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
Only two defining forces have ever died for you.....
1. Jesus Christ.
2. The American Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine, and Coast Guardsman.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom!
How does the same government that blew the intelligence on Iraq, blew the intelligence on September 11th, couldn't catch the Unibomber until his brother ratted him out, suddenly become this huge highly sophisticated machine capable of keeping track of all of us and our various weapons? Just a hypothetical question. I lost all my firearms when the yacht sank.
"The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come." ~ Confucius
You might be a little paranoid. By the way, what is that black van with all to antenna's doing outside your house? OH, never mind, that helicopter circling overhead is keeping an eye on the van.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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"Paranoia will get you through times of no enemies better than enemies will get you through times of no paranoia."
A little paranoia is a good thing, keeps you on your toes.
Disarming innocent people does not protect innocent people.
Don't ever think that the reason I'm peaceful is because I'm afraid to be violent!
I guess this was a good place to present my question. Lots of great replies and advice. Now I've just got to sit down and go through them and then go to the proper sub forum to get advice on whichh AR to get.
I kind of see peoples point on some things but reading some things this morning I read this on the form filled out when purchasing a firearm. "The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm,....The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book". A dealer must keep this on file at least 20 years and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310." Even though the government may not be completely competent if wouldn't be hard to compile this information and even though the gun isn't designated as the "evil black assault rifle" it would be easy to classify firearms by model. I also read some comments here, not this post, about legalities and what agencies are allowed to access or pull. In a big change of government the whole point is that our rights and laws will go out the window. One thing that I've been thinking about though too is that taking firearms here might be a little more difficult that other countries as far as an all out confiscation because we probably sell more in a day than a lot of militaries have. Once word got around that this was happening people might get fired up. However, I think part of the plan is to work on eliminating personal firearms little by little until one day we wake up and it's too late.
i believe stocking up is a.smart idea. plus, its far better to have and not need than need and not have. you can always shoot it off later :). on the AR and 4473 note, I work at an ffl and what most people dont realize is we dont report what gun it is only whether its a handgun or long gun. so yes, they will know you own a gun but have no idea whether thats a 22 or an AR
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy...
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I would be more worried about a Romney victory as he is very anti-gun and when he had the chance to show his support for gun owners and the 2nd Amendment, he did not. Obama signed a pro-gun bill reluctantly but he did unlike Mitt "I hate Freedom and Guns" Romney. I don't understand the worries about Obama but I do worry more about a Romney presidency and what it means for our freedom. However I would not worry about the election and the state of the nation. Being prepared and ready is always guns.