Military suicide policy would try to remove personal firearms
This is a discussion on Military suicide policy would try to remove personal firearms within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by OldVet
I simply can't understand the reason behind all the suicides. I only knew of one during my "tour" and that was ...
October 18th, 2012 09:53 PM
Most likley it was like this during other wars OldVet it's just that now the military is putting a face to it and making sure every soldier is aware of it.Unfortunatley all the awarness training that has been going on for the last few years hasn't lowerd the suicide rate.I actually was responsible for giving the suicide awarness/prevention class at the last unit i belonged to before i retired,it's not a good feeling knowing it didn't help much.
Originally Posted by OldVet
The easy way is always mined.
October 18th, 2012 09:53 PM
October 19th, 2012 09:49 AM
Having gone through the Air Force version of the training, I wouldn't say is useless or in any way not helpful. Fortunately I haven't had to use the training with any friends or co-workers, but I'm confident that the training would help me identify someone who is at-risk and get them with a medical professional. Now, what happens after that is on the individual's leadership, and its really tough for them to get it right 100% of the time.
Originally Posted by CIBMike
October 19th, 2012 10:22 AM
He knew they were being returned and chose to wait. He probably would have chosen a different method had he known they were not being returned.
Originally Posted by suntzu
There were certainly enough dangerous chemicals, tools, and situations around when I was in. The only way someone could have been protected from all of that would have been to lock him up. (My personal evaluation as a result of having incurable cancer.)
October 19th, 2012 02:19 PM
This may just be me, but I feel like parts of the message conflict. They want to make it seem like it's ok to ask for help, and does not make you weak, but then as soon as you identify yourself, they want to take away your guns? Won't knowing that they will take away your guns further scare people away from coming forward and make them feel like they will be marked or labeled?
It feels like a bait and switch deal to me.
October 19th, 2012 05:22 PM
Well, that conundrum happens in the civilian world as well. On the one hand we encourage people to open up to their
Originally Posted by BigStick
physicians and therapists about suicidal ideation, yet OTOH in some jurisdictions, that can be enough to get you a
short mental hold with the consequent loss of rights and brief loss of freedom.
There is a certain "diplomacy" that needs to be deployed when communicating with health care providers so that your
problem gets noted and tended to, but you don't stigmatize yourself.
If the Union is once severed, the line of separation will grow wider and wider, and the controversies which are now debated and settled in the halls of legislation will then be tried in fields of battle and determined by the sword.
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