This is a discussion on Gee I didn't find flippig off the Tomb Of The Unknown soldier funny, do you? within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by high pockets I read an NBC article that said she was allowed to resign. At least she will be ineligible for unemployment ...
In previous eras a person could be crucified or worse for such an act of defilement. Modern Democracy has surely made us soft, but I take solice in allowing some creeps to run free so that good men are not hanging along the roadside.
There is a solution but we are not Jedi... not yet.
Win/win all around, I'd say.
This. Outing herself as a classless jerk should be punishment enough in and of itself. Free speech is free speech is free speech - none of us gets to choose what is "acceptable" and what isn't. She's "anti-authority," and I'm fine with that. Now she has to live with the consequences of being "anti-employed," as well. As long as her actions are in keeping with her core beliefs and what she stands for as a person (even though I obviously don't agree with her), I see nothing inherently wrong with what she did. Make your choices, and take a stand for them. Just be prepared to accept the feedback the world gives you for them.Robert Johnson, army veteran and military and defense editor at news site, Business Insider, wrote an op-ed, saying he felt "compelled to defend her."
"More importantly, if Lindsey Stone wants to rip on the Tomb of the Unknowns, me, my service, or the hundreds of mutilated troops I served with at Walter Reed Medical Center, she should be able to do so without fear of retribution," Johnson wrote. "Freedom like that is what we fought for, and respecting other opinions is part of what the militray tried to teach all of us who served."
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.
Young people have been thumbing their noses at authority for far longer than there's been a USA and will do so long after the USA is gone. The main difference is now we have an internet so we can all be outraged about it. Outrage is the most popular sport in America. She's obviously a twit, but it seems she got her just desserts. Hopefully she learned a lesson; I hope it's the right one.
There is word on the wind that Jane Fonda is looking to give her a position, um, I mean Job! (oh darn, I think that does not read well)
30 years old and on a work related trip to DC and she's acting like a 14 yr old brat.
These are the selfish kids that we're raising these days that think everything is about them.
They know nothing of sacrifice, respect, or honoring our fallen.
Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see!
It seems to me that a pendulum has swung all the way to the right in our country. 40 years ago veterans were spit on and called all sorts of bad names. Now, veterans are practically worshipped. I don't think either is right. In fact, I think this "loving servicemen to the Nth degree" thing is just the new PC vogue. To me this whole thing feels like a cause the do gooders have jumped onto, like saving the whales or something.
I think it will be less and less hip over the next 10 to 15 years. Ten years of war has given us a decades worth of troubled young men who have been there, done that. Will we, as a society, still be able to love these guys down the road? You know, after the gild is off the lilly and our heroic fighting men are percieved as just frail and broken men/women who are taking too long to act normal. Sadly, I think not.
Now on topic:
Was this girl stupid? Yes. Does this girl deserve the full crap storm she is now living for making a stupid FB post? I don't think so. Stupid is as stupid does and I've seen MUCH worse over the years go unpunished.
Here's something she ought to consider......."You reap what you sow."
Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.
It is great that some folks like to chat about what they did or are doing in the military. But there are some folks that just want to be left alone. I will discuss what I did to very few people and only if it pertains to a conversation or something someone is talking about.
About 9 years ago we were at church and it was around Veterans Day or Memorial day or something and they asked for the vets to stand up. I never do. Wife gets ticked. I told her that you are an L&D nurse in a crappy part of town with high risk pregnancies. She has delivered babies on her own and has saved and/or helped save the lives of many little babies. I don't see anyone askng for her to stand up every holiday to be thanked for her job.
I never viewed myself or what I did as anything more special than the school teacher, nurse, doctor, or even the plumbers who in the middle of blizzards in NH will travel through the snow to get the heat going in an old ladies home.
An individual is special...just being in the military or any profession IMO does not warrant a thank you. I am sure PFC Manning got plenty of "thanks for his service" before he got arrested for passing classified documents to Wikileaks.
As far as the topic is concerned I agree to a certain extent. I would not have assumed that her act was condoned by LIFE just because she lists that as an employer on her FB page. But, the employer has a right to discipline her.
The thing that gets me is she workd for an organization that helps people with learning diabilities and stuff like that. They shoould have switched her from employee to participant
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
She might have not lost her job, except she did it on company time. She was being paid to keep an eye on those in her charge, not to make an ass of herself.As far as the topic is concerned I agree to a certain extent. I would not have assumed that her act was condoned by LIFE just because she lists that as an employer on her FB page. But, the employer has a right to discipline her.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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The problem that we find today with people and the instantaneous "fame" that can be achieved by the Internet Media is that yes, people will do, say and post stupid or even offensive things.
She does, however, have the right to be stupid and offensive, even if people disagree with her actions. Also, her employer can terminate her if she does things that are or could be contrary to the Company's interests. It would be the same thing as stealing while on company time although a tasteless display posted on FB is in no way relative to theft. It has the same connotations.
There is however for "every action an equal and opposite reaction" and she is feeling the effect from that. Hopefully she will learn to be discreet in the future and then again, maybe not. Some folk never learn.
I have much respect for our Military but as Timmy has said, it does indeed border upon some worship or attempting to be PC with the soldiers past & present. They just need some respect, that's all.
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