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    I think the Israelis have been "coed" in their military for some time. It seems to work for them. I have no military experience, so I can only offer my idea. Give them a chance. The navy already has women in subs and combat aircraft. I realize this not the same as front-line combat. Let each of us be judged on our own actions. Basic training weeds out lots of men too.
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    On a volunteer basis, with all female squads, I could see it IF the women meet the same physical standards as the male counterparts. Women have served in front line units in armies around the world. But making physical tests, gender-specific, and lessening the standard, I don't agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty View Post
    I'm all for women in our armed forces, because we have as much reason to put our lives on the line for our families and country like the menfolk. The women, however, need to meet the current physical requirements. I am completely against watering down requirements for political correctness. If anyone can't do the miles and carry the load, then that person - man or woman - should not be accepted. Watering down the rules to allow weaker people in does no one a service. It will, however, make our military weaker. There's plenty of other honorable positions in the military where that person can be utilized.
    And that's not even getting into what could happen to an American female soldier in enemy hands, especially an enemy that hates their own women so much they stone them to death for showing an ankle. *shiver*
    Excellent post. I totally agree.
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    If they want to fight, let them. Gender should not disqualify someone from realizing their dreams.
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    I think some females could easily hump a 70 LB pack.

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    Women Have Been Serving In Combat Roles For Years.

    Just ask any married man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyBunny View Post
    Just ask any married man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    I think some females could easily hump a 70 LB pack.
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    A few 25 mile forced marches in under 8 hours with full combat load carry crew served weapons will quickly settle the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    I think some females could easily hump a 70 LB pack.

    Question that I would have with regards to anyone, male or female, who looks like that, is their muscular endurance level and functional strength. There was a guy who kept trying out for my high school wrestling team who was a bodybuilder, he could do three pushups to everyone's else one, but he couldn't do a situp to save his life. He always ended up quitting because he never made varsity. IIRC, he was 5'4" or 5'5", about 150 lbs, 3-4% bodyfat. I think a woman who is a crossfitter, would be better in combat arms than a bodybuilder. Had to go to my desktop to see the video, Ipad doesn't show it.
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    This isn't my fight anymore. Oh well. This is just the result of beaurocrat objectives. Face it. It's the beginning of the end of our countries dignity

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    I'll weigh in on this. I was a shift chief in aircraft maintenance went the first women entered the maintenance fields. First we were told we'd have to clean up our acts and language. That didn't happen. We treated our first "lady" like one of the guys. She appreciated that. She said it was easier to be one of the guys than the only girl in the shop.

    Some women worked out well, some didn't--just like the guys. What those "above" failed to realize was that, although the ladies were more than capable of understanding electronic circuitry, testing procedures, and maintenance procedures, no one thought to teach them what a #2 Phillips screwdriver or a six inch socket extension was. Every guy knows that--women didn't. But they learned. Some of my better maintenance troops were women, but it took time for them to reach that point in the field. They learned to get dirty just like the guys.

    But for me, the thought of picking up pieces of a guy is near horror. Picking up pieces of a woman is unthinkable. But the only way to settle the dispute of whether women can handle frontline combat is to let them. They come to their own decision then.
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    I spent 24 years in the military and through out the years had many women under my command in peace time, but never in a combat environment. IMHO, based on my combat experience, the average female could not withstand the horrors of a ground engagement against an enemy force. Many men, better men than me, that I knew well crumbled during an engagement or from seeing the aftermath of the engagement and still suffer from the memories. I have served with some pretty tough women, but none that I believe could survive as grunt in a combat environment. There are many many critical support jobs that are more suitable for women then the combat arms.

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    Some WWII Russian Vets might disagree with you on that.
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    I have no problem with women mechanics, women pilots, women snipers, women intel officers etc. It's the front line combat soldier position I think is crazy.
    I admire women for wanting to do it, but I don't think they should do it.

    Do you want your son or grandson to be on the front line with a woman who's there to "prove" herself?

    Again, women don't have that kind of strength. It's a biological fact and to ignore that is dangerous for everyone.

    The one exception is QK's video girlfriend.
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