Women Officially in Combat Roles
This is a discussion on Women Officially in Combat Roles within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by suntzu
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January 24th, 2013 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by suntzu
January 24th, 2013 07:03 PM
Obviously, this whole topic is being used as a political tool. I say we need to register all 18 year old girls for the draft, starting now. If it's really about equality, then you have to go all the way. It's not.
The problem is that drafting girls wouldn't gain any votes.
January 24th, 2013 07:10 PM
This is a bad idea for several reasons. A man is more likely to put himself in harms way if they think the female soldier is in danger. It's like we all want to protect our mothers. Additional cost to provide for separate quarters. Distraction from a tight pair of fatigues will get you killed. If the woman on the front like gets captured she better be wearing a chastity belt. Can a woman hump a 40 pound ruck on a 15 mile march. I'm not going to carry her. Equal opportunity will get involved and may drop the physical requirements for women's equal rights. When the SHTF I don't want to hear please hold me. Do I need to go on. Ladies, I apologize in advance if I have offended any of you but this will cost lives, men and women.
Originally Posted by boatman
Last edited by Rock and Glock; January 24th, 2013 at 08:34 PM.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
January 24th, 2013 07:14 PM
I think that no matter how "PC" the "progressive" Left wants to be, there are certain societal and cultural factors that just simply cannot be changed, at least not at this point in time.
If I were in the military, I could trust a woman, I could depend on one, and I could fight side by side with a woman. I have 3 daughters, and I have always been impressed by their abilities. While they may not always bring brute physical strength to the table, women ocharacteristly often bring other valueable traits to the fight. What I'm trying to say here, is that in no way shape or form doubt the bravery and abilities of women in a combat role.
However, while I could fight side by side with women, what I just could not psychologically handle, is if that woman were to be wounded, killed, or captured by the enemy. It would just mess me up. And that, would comprimise my abilities as a male soldier/sailor/marine. Of course a male comrade casualty would possibly mess me up too, but not nearly to the degree of a woman. That is just because how I am culturally and biologically programmed after thousands of years of human instinct.
January 24th, 2013 07:19 PM
OK, so a mothers maternal instict to protect her younf might distract an older NCO female in protecting a 18 yr old kid
A man is more likely to put himself in harms way if they think the female soldier is in danger. It's like we all want to protect our mothers.
Depending what unit you are in and what you are doing they share may also share the same tent/quarters. As far back as I could remember during field probles we had females in the same tent as us and sometime seperate tents.
Additional cost to provide for separate quarters.
That is just ignorant
Distraction from a tight pair of fatigues will get you killed
Can a woman hump a 40 pound ruck on a 15 mile march. I'm not going to carry her
I have no idea where and when you served but you served with a bunch of females that are not the norm (my experience)
When the s**t hit the fan I don't want to hear please hold me.
That may be true and a valid reason for not having women serve as 11, 18 series.
Equal opportunity will get involved and may drop the physical requirements for women's equal rights.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
January 24th, 2013 07:22 PM
I agree, that (registering for the draft) is where this will be going.
Originally Posted by stanislaskasava
January 24th, 2013 07:50 PM
Serving ones country does not necessarily mean compatibility with capability, military readiness or even need. There are nearly unlimited ways of serving, and serving with honor, in all branches. I served 20 years in the Navy. Originally I "dreamed" of being a Seal. It was much more a dream than a reality. I ended up a Senior Chief Signalman with a wonderful, fulfilling career. If one demands self-actualization find a therapist or a life coach. Don't place fellow soldiers/sailors/airmen or the country in danger just to attain one's dreams.
Originally Posted by OldVet
January 24th, 2013 08:03 PM
Go for it, give them a all female fire fight squad kicking down doors and getting to the bad guy.
The police are not there to protect you from crime, they are there to arrest the guy after the crime has been committed, assuming they find him. It is your responsibility to protect yourself and your family.
January 24th, 2013 08:15 PM
Well I'm a military police officer I am a soldier I have deployed with women and have been in fire fights with women by my side fighting same as I do it's hard to lose any of your battle buddy's I believe it's a good thing god bless our troops
Originally Posted by Jeanlouise
January 24th, 2013 08:17 PM
If that sounded rude I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to sound rude
January 24th, 2013 08:58 PM
Not at all, I admire your passion and confidence in women. Again, I'm not saying women shouldn't be in the Military in many different disciplines. I don't think the front line is one of them.
Originally Posted by rawdawg1217
I also I'm completely against women who have minor children being deployed overseas for more than 3 months at a time. But, that's a whole other thread.
January 24th, 2013 09:06 PM
Because you didn't fulfill your "dreams" doesn't others can't. I don't think anyone is demanding anything, only the opportunity to prove themselves. It is not up to either of us to set the boundries of who can exceed at what.
Originally Posted by sigs
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January 24th, 2013 09:08 PM
I almost fell over - the news tonight said that women will be allowed in combat units...IF they can meet the same physical standards as the men.
Maybe there is some sense left in the DoD after all.
Still think it is a distraction that is not needed, and there are other hygiene etc issues as well...but...if the women have to meet the same physical standards as the men, there will be precious few women in the combat arms.
In other words, this was all political theater.
The more good folks carry guns, the fewer shots the crazies can get off.
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January 24th, 2013 09:33 PM
Isn't it all anymore?
In other words, this was all political theater.
"He went on two legs, wore clothes and was a human being, but nevertheless he was in reality a wolf of the Steppes. He had learned a good deal . . . and was a fairly clever fellow. What he had not learned, however, was this: to find contentment in himself and his own life. The cause of this apparently was that at the bottom of his heart he knew all the time (or thought he knew) that he was in reality not a man, but a wolf of the Steppes."
January 24th, 2013 09:37 PM
Keep yer eyes on da shell with the ball. Any trick to take the eyes off the ball. Carnival tricks. Has been for as long as the carnies have been in the show.
Originally Posted by 10thmtn
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos)
NRA, SAF, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.
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