DHS Confiscates Gun Collection

DHS Confiscates Gun Collection

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    DHS Confiscates Gun Collection

    He Hasn't Been Charged With Any Crime!
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    [KRQE in Albuquerque, New Mexico, reports that the Department of Homeland Security the federal agency initially established to protect the United States from terrorists and respond to natural disasters has used its ICE division to bust a gun collector. Federal Homeland Security Investigation agents raided ...]

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    Wow, no charges and still confiscated! Sounds like Obama is getting started to me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBGoodToGo View Post
    He Hasn't Been Charged With Any Crime!
    Yet, but it certainly appears that he's under investigation for a couple.
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    I think that the main thing that bothers me about this is that it seems to be a case of "guilty until proven innocent."
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    Just remember, like anything else, there are at least 2 sides to every story. We are only getting 1 side and it isn't from an unbiased source.

    I'll wait for the rest of the story before I make a decision.
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    Ditto. There's something else behind this story.
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    It's not likely the rest of the story will ever be told by a truthfully media.
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    Should read "no charges as of yet"
    If I had to take random guess perhaps he is behaving like a gun dealer in action but not doing it right. I'll bet a judge will be taking a look at if his actions are that of a dealer or of a collector.

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    ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War - Firearms Verification Overview

    It sounds to me like he was buying guns without serial numbers or possibly buying guns from south of the border without the approved marking of serial numbers. If so, that would have precipitated the actions of DHS Customs branch.

    Those laws were in place LONG before the current gun grabbers were in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveCO View Post
    Should read "no charges as of yet"
    If I had to take random guess perhaps he is behaving like a gun dealer in action but not doing it right. I'll bet a judge will be taking a look at if his actions are that of a dealer or of a collector.
    That is my thought also. Or maybe his volume of transactions made the government think he was a dealer, I was stationed with an individual at Altus that was constantly buying and trading cars until he received a letter from DMV informing him that he needed a dealer’s license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Just remember, like anything else, there are at least 2 sides to every story. We are only getting 1 side and it isn't from an unbiased source.

    I'll wait for the rest of the story before I make a decision.
    Exactly, There's more holes in that story than you can count and it's obviously bent on making the "collector" look like an oppressed innocent. In reality if they've confiscated over 1,400 firearms from one person, there's a high possibility that his status as a "collector" might just extend into something less legal.
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    After seeing a report on his involvement in a whistleblower operation, it will be nice to see all of the info come out.
    I can see that there is a wealth of info begging to come out, and I do not even begiin to think we willl be getting all of the
    true facts coming out of Washington DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorizo View Post
    ATF Online - Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War - Firearms Verification Overview

    It sounds to me like he was buying guns without serial numbers or possibly buying guns from south of the border without the approved marking of serial numbers. If so, that would have precipitated the actions of DHS Customs branch.

    Those laws were in place LONG before the current gun grabbers were in place.
    Not all guns have S/Ns yet they are legal. I can see a collector having many guns with no S/Ns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Not all guns have S/Ns yet they are legal. I can see a collector having many guns with no S/Ns.
    I have antique arms that were produced by the manufacturer without SNs. I also have one Italian firearm and one French that both have the exact SAME SN. If registration became a requirement, how would the govt account for those?
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    I ain't alking about antiques folks, I am talking about guns that have come in and do NOT follow ATF guidelines. I am also not talking about one or two antique guns.

    Get a grip, folks. If DHS Customs is involved, it isn't about Obama starting a gun grab. Read here if you think it is: The TRUTH About Black Helicopters!

    By the by, DHS does NOT have troops. They have agents....that is Law Enforcement Officers. Posse Comitatus greatly limits Federal Military Troops from being used for Law Enforcement purposes against citizens.

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