"The Man who shot Osama bin Laden...is screwed"

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    "The Man who shot Osama bin Laden...is screwed"

    According to an article in Esquire Magazine...

    CNN's Wolf Blitzer interviewed the author of the article...

    The SEAL quit after 16 years... didn't make his 20... so no pension... One of SEAL team 6's members who was publicly named, (not the shooter) has his photo on a jihadist site with a price on his head...

    The man who actually pulled the trigger on OBL, is out of work, separated from his wife. Trained her how to put the kids in the bathtub and shoot through the door of the bedroom, should an intruder (or a jihadi) come into the house...

    What's he get from the Navy?


    Bupkus.


    Shame, that.


    Story here


    PS, I've liked Esquire Magazine since way back in '81.. when they published this GEM
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    There's gotta be more to this story.
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    I'm sure lots of people know who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    There's gotta be more to this story.
    Yeah.. the Gov't offered him "witness protection" the armed forces don't have any program in place.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubenZ View Post
    I'm sure lots of people know who he is.
    I hope it ain't the wrong people.
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    No, he's not "screwed." It's journalistic sensationalism.

    Unless he was kicked out early, he knew the consequences of leaving the service prior to retirement, just as do all other service members who leave. No one who leaves at the end of their enlistment receives a pension or medical care without some sort of disability. If he didn't wish to continue the "SeAL" life, I'm sure he could have found a slot elsewhere to fill in the Navy. And he'll probably get better treatment and service thru the VA then I do as a retiree.

    Separated but still living with loving wife? A bit odd there.

    He's only facing the issues every service member faces upon re-entering the civilian world. It ain't easy, I know. He made a career decison, so now he has to live with it. We all have to do that, without making headlines. I find it a bit shameful to project him as some poor, poor, mistreated hero.
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    I just had a similar argument with Suntzu on another thread.

    'Bottom line is OldVet is right. Every service member signs up for same deal, whether they become a hero or not. We all make our choices and take our chances.
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    I'm on the "more to the story" side. Everyone knows 20 is the magic number - he chose to get out.
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    OldVet; Better treatment than a retiree? My military career was cut short by service connected medical problems and I receive the same outstanding medical care as offered to all veterans, Medal of Honor recipients or just National Defense Ribbon recipients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    No, he's not "screwed." It's journalistic sensationalism.

    Unless he was kicked out early, he knew the consequences of leaving the service prior to retirement, just as do all other service members who leave. No one who leaves at the end of their enlistment receives a pension or medical care without some sort of disability. If he didn't wish to continue the "SeAL" life, I'm sure he could have found a slot elsewhere to fill in the Navy. And he'll probably get better treatment and service thru the VA then I do as a retiree.

    Separated but still living with loving wife? A bit odd there.

    He's only facing the issues every service member faces upon re-entering the civilian world. It ain't easy, I know. He made a career decison, so now he has to live with it. We all have to do that, without making headlines. I find it a bit shameful to project him as some poor, poor, mistreated hero.
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    'Bottom line is OldVet is right. Every service member signs up for same deal, whether they become a hero or not. We all take our chances.
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    Everyone knows 20 is the magic number - he chose to get out.
    I agree with all of these statements as well...

    He made his choice to get out... he could've had 4 more years... perhaps not active... He chose not to. And maybe he felt his last action made him special... Who knows

    The "more to the story?" We aren't anymore "entitled" to know that than we are to know any one else's reason for separation from their job. This is the part we know... He's out. He (his family) might be legitimately in danger, if he's outed by some means... (the other guy was). And he and his loved ones may not have any outside protection other than his own skills.

    The guy who ordered the kill shot (perhaps for his own aggrandizement) is protected (and rightfully so). But the guy who pulled the trigger is left hanging... and somebody will leak his name, sooner or later... I'd rather have seen him stay out his service. And we won't likely know the reasons for his separation... but, I don't want to see him in peril for doing his job, now that he's out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    .. but, I don't want to see him in peril for doing his job, now that he's out of it.
    This is where I would think we owe him. He quit, too bad. That happens to everyone in the military and to
    anyone who holds a corporate or government job. There are eligibility rules for various benefits and all know them.

    Being the man who shot OBL however puts him in a special situation. He and his family need protection,
    and if necessary some economic help if needed to make the protection work. If the military is not
    able to do that, and if he doesn't fit the categories of folks who are protected (usually informants), then CONGRESS
    could quickly pass a law enabling the use of either military or civilian resources to the purpose.

    He doesn't deserve a special retirement deal, or a special health care deal, but he does deserve protection
    from retaliation.

    We will be one very very very embarrassed country if Iranian, Taliban, Al-Quida, or freelance operatives
    kill him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    According to an article in Esquire Magazine...

    Story here


    PS, I've liked Esquire Magazine since way back in '81.. when they published this GEM
    It is all a BIG lie.

    PS, I have NEVER liked, read or even looked at an Esquire Rag.
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    Rush Limbaugh just exposed this story as a fraud...a hoax made up by the guy who wrote the article. "He thought it would be a good story."

    Article from Drudge Report...right under the original article...second column.

    "MSM serves up big, steaming pile of BS about former Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden"

    (This is a direct quote of the article title.)
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    That second story you linked to was fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit51 View Post
    Rush Limbaugh just exposed this story as a fraud...a hoax made up by the guy who wrote the article. "He thought it would be a good story."

    Article from Drudge Report...right under the original article...second column.

    "MSM serves up big, steaming pile of BS about former Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden"

    (This is a direct quote of the article title.)
    Drudge links to "twitchy" who only corrected the portion on his transitional health care... similar to COBRA for private sector folks. And, if I left my employer under less than amicable terms, whatever they may be.. and was denied benefits, even if due to my own ignorance of the regulations... I might say "they screwed me" too... I'd like to see more facts, more of the story... short of having the serviceman air his grievances publicly, how do we determine the veracity of the entire story? Hard to do.

    Rush Limbaugh? whodat? A fraud calling someone else a fraud? Don't waste my time quoting him. And, I usta be a ditto head, who advertised his own business on the Rush Limbaugh Show, daily (because I believed in what he said).

    As to "... thought it would be a good story" what journalist who gets a story, true or not, doesn't think it'd be a good story?

    If you wanna quote El Rushbo, why not quote O'Reilly, too? I mean O'Reilly is suggesting national registration, and selective allowances for "Assault weapons." Yet another fraud, who is touted as a spokesperson for the right wing.

    There is no one source for news... I am willing to consider them all... and frequently do.

    But, the bottom line for me on this one is... We don't know all the facts... and we may never... I'm for personal accountability... but if this is "the guy who pulled the trigger" we should afford him some protection. otherwise, he's not entitled to special treatment.
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